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The Forum > General Discussion > The age of entitlement is over. Apparently!

The age of entitlement is over. Apparently!

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Who has the longest snout. Anything over four feet has been there too long. The age of entitlement was supposed to be looked at by Hockey, so what happened there, it shows you loud and clear there is one rule for them and one for the rest.
Labor wants Abbott’s fleet of Jets to be included in the reforms as well. All expenses over 10 cents to be made public.
What a bunch of hooligans, to think they have a right to take kids and wives [ first class ] at their own discretion.
This Liberal govt; has surely broken a lot of records in 2 years, it will be hard to compete with.
This term of parliament is supposed to have the trigger for a DD election on the books. That will be good. Won’t it. With rumblings going on from the backbenchers, all is not that stable in rabbit land. is it
Posted by doog, Monday, 10 August 2015 12:47:24 PM
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Seems like those on both sides of the house (including the Greens) have acted like unionist. The only difference is ones the taxpayers money and the others is cleaners and workers money. The corruption of man's heart comes to light again.
Posted by runner, Monday, 10 August 2015 2:44:02 PM
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Regardless of the 'colour' of politician, some will have a habit of caution where spending other people's money is concerned and others will put their efforts into taking advantage.

It is essential that the perception of 'entitlements' be replaced with the correct usage, 'Reimbursable Work Expenses'. It is supposed to be for reimbursement and work expenses, although where amounts are high, pre-payment may be required.

Otherwise politicians are likely to demand large amounts for various perceived 'entitlements' and lean on the Remuneration Tribunal to reward them accordingly by tying their (pollies') 'entitlements' to suitably high rolling senor executives in the private sector.

While transparency should be demanded, that is almost worthless where the reasons for the travel are not given and sufficient for the lay person to understand the purpose of the reimbursement.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 10 August 2015 4:25:16 PM
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Beach, your long winded and convoluted attempts to absolve the conservative side of politics from the crime of "over indulgence" at taxpayer expense is laughable. In some way you claim it was those nasty socialists, Labor and The Greens who left the lid off the cookie jar, and Bronnie and the boys were merely partaking of a well deserved nibble, rubbish!
Obviously you have nothing on The Greens on this issue, otherwise you would be on here yelling it from the roof tops, you can't even provide one of your ridiculous links to some irrelevant events 10,000 miles away, as you often do. The Greens have been most frugal with their entitlements, unlike members of the Coalition our hard working MP's respect the privileges parliament, and therefore the people, have bestowed upon them. Just fess up, its just another nail in the coffin of this incompetent Abbott government.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 5:25:42 AM
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What we need in our political system more than anything else, is accountability.

Regardless of which side you sit on, there is simply no denying that the likes of Rudd and Gilarld are a typical example of how broken our system is as these two have both contributed badly to our current situation, yet, simply because they played that on again, off again, leader game, we are now supporting the both of them and that's simply wrong.even if they did a good job, why are we, the tax payer supporting two and why can these two share the one benefit, rather than have their own nest egg fir life.

The other thing we need is for front benchers to hold professional indemnity insurance, just like accountants, lawyers and other professionals who's decisions, if proven wrong, can cost their clients dearly.

As for allowances, I say all important meetings should be paid for, then depending on their position they have an allowance amount and, once expended, that's it.

As for the comment about business people ripping off the tax payer, think again because those days are all but over and families are certainly not treated as a tax deduction any more, nor are business lunches.

But at the end of the day this is as much about the moral issue as it is the legal one as these are the very people who have told ordinary Australians to tighten their belts.

A true leader leads by example and these people should now all resign in my opinion as they have let the people down.

As for Tony Abbott, the only thing saving him right now is Bill Shorten and ain't that a crying shame. The race to the bottom continues!
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 8:54:11 AM
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rehctub,

"As for Tony Abbott, the only thing saving him right now is Bill Shorten and ain't that a crying shame. The race to the bottom continues!"

The only thing "saving him" (from being turfed as Lib leader?) is the stupidity of his parliamentary party holding onto him. As if he is going to be able to reboot to anything remotely acceptable at the next election.

Morgan Poll: L/NP 43 (-3) Labor 57 (+3)

Newspoll: L/NP 46 (-1) Labor 54 (+1)

"But at the end of the day this is as much about the moral issue as it is the legal one as these are the very people who have told ordinary Australians to tighten their belts."

Here's two examples of Coalition members travelling at taxpayer's expense to promote "belt tightening...

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/eric-abetz-and-cory-bernardi-rack-up-a-bill-to-attend-antigovernment-waste-do-20150809-giv1me.html

This one cost $25,000...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/federal-mp-jamie-briggs-defends-25000-trip-to-norfolk-island/story-fni6uo1m-1227478009843

I love the way it's apparently all down to Gillard and Rudd with you mob...as if they're responsible for Coalition members not being able to resist taking advantage of the system to feather their own nests.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 10:00:47 AM
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