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Is Bill Shorten the Workers Friend or Foe?

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Shadow, there was no compensation paid to Hockey over the content of the articles. those Liberals only got the flick because they were un-electable.
Conservatives are apt to make wild and exaggerated claims about pedophilia, take the SA Liberal Peter Lewis and his unsubstantiated claims. Tony Abbott the one time would-be catholic priest had confidential talks with George Pell before pulling money out of the Royal Commission on that very subject. A very dirty subject you go into Shadow.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 13 July 2015 12:01:55 PM
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Paul,

The reason that Fairfax got caned in the defamation suit and will probably end up $3m poorer, was not because of the content of the article, but for the Headline that said that he was for sale which was not supported by the content of the article, and the judge found that there was deliberate and malicious intent behind this. Perhaps he was just the typical left whinger that pushed poetic license to the point where it became a lie. Something that you are wont to do.

Pedophilia is a dark subject that at least one green got into as well.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 July 2015 3:53:12 PM
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Shadow,

I do not know of any Green that "Pedophilia is a dark subject that at least one green got into as well." Would you care to name that person and I will forward it onto The Greens on your behalf.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 13 July 2015 7:38:38 PM
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Shadow,

I gave you opportunity to make good on your weasel words;

"Pedophilia is a dark subject that at least one green got into as well." Name the person and I will pass it on for you so action can be taken.

Or are you simply a troll trying to flame. I think you are, and have now slithered off to hide under a rock, concerning the person you refuse to name and associate with your weasel words of pedophilia. Of course if you make such a claim and can not provide evidence then that is another story altogether, right Rumpole!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 7:28:01 AM
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Dear oh dear, it's so easy to slip off-topic, and so entertaining, isn't it ?

Meanwhile the Royal Commission is uncovering thuggery in the CFMEU.

The Labor Party is busy labelling the Royal Commission a witch-hunt: who would have thought that it might uncover so many real witches ?

And so much more to come: wouldn't be dead for quids.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 8:59:07 AM
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Hi Joe,

As a unionist I make no apology for the actions of some sections of the movement at times, other than to say the CFMEU is a tough union operating in an equally tough environment today. An environment that many of us have never been subjected to, and therefore have no understanding of the reality of the industry. But that doesn't make it right. On balance I say the likes of Laurie Carmichael AMWSU in my day, and Brian Parker CFMEU today have been a positive for the membership, Brian has never been a "shrinking violet" nor was Laurie when it came to leadership and union matters in those tough industries. Can I say, "have these people always acted within the law", I doubt it.

"A Canberra building project manager has told the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption an ACT construction union official pushed him over on a worksite." ABC News

To that I would say, is that all "pushed over"! In my day I have witnessed much worse, even bashing's, even from the employers side, I could give you a good example of that, never to be condoned, but it did and does happen. I find the actions of the likes of Michael Williamson and Craig Thomson in ripping off low paid workers from the HSU far worse, and now Kathy Jackson has a lot to explain.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 12:01:07 PM
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