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Is Bill Shorten the Workers Friend or Foe?

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Hi Aiden,
That is exactly what Shadow will tell you is stupid about those gambling laws, they reduce the amount gambling addicts lose. So the gambling lobby makes a big fat donation to the Liberal Party so no anti gambling laws are introduced to slow the huge amounts flowing into the pockets of big gambling. Shadow will tell you it is a good investment by big gambling. He might even tell you it is a win/win all round, a win for the Liberal Party and a win for big gambling, no losers just a couple of winners!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 18 July 2015 5:35:58 PM
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Paul,

The gambling laws were because the restrictive laws were applied to everyone putting a burden on casual gamblers and imposing vast costs on venues that are already marginally profitable.

The result is that licensed gambling in Aus would largely close down and internet Pokies that pay no tax nor take any precautions to prevent addictive gambling. Essentially clubs close, taxes go up, and problem gambling is not helped.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 18 July 2015 8:54:57 PM
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Shadow,

You once again fail to explain how $406,250 from the gambling lobby to the Liberal Party is of assistance to problem gamblers. The fact is Abbott in office had done zilch to tackle problem gambling in Australia, could this have something to do with vested interests donating money to the party. "Venues that are already marginally profitable" you say, so you would put profits before people, typical conservative philosophy, its better for people associated with problem gambling to crash and burn than to have a few gambling business types losing out on profits.

You attack The Greens for taking a donation from a private individual, linking it to a business donation, would you like to do the same for the Roslyn Packer $580,000 donation to the Liberal Party, was it on behalf of James Packer's business interests? Packer's business interests at Barangaroo seem to be getting very good treatment at the hands of the Liberal Government in NSW,
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 July 2015 5:52:16 PM
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Paul,

The point I was making was that the gambling laws would have little to no effect on problem gamblers as there are plenty of other ways of gambling.

The greens are the ones that took a huge corporate donation in spite of being the only party to ban it in their rules, and taking dirty money from corrupt unions. The liberals have no unions to fund them and are perfectly happy to take donations from uncorrupted members of the public.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 19 July 2015 8:26:59 PM
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Shadow,

Taking $340,000 from a mysterious foreign investment company, in this case the 'Hong Kong Kingston Investments', is just the Liberals being "uncorrupted". Please explain what benefits the Abbott governments were able to bestow upon this Chinese mob in return for the $340,000 gift.
The Liberal Party is a joke when it comes to taking foreign money. Who is Jiefang Huang and why did she donate $100,000 to The NSW Liberal Party? The Liberal Party is a political harlot when it comes to taking money, they will bestow their favors upon anyone, providing the price is right.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 July 2015 10:24:22 PM
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Paul,

The benefits that the libs give to all businesses is competent government free of the 1000s of stupid red and green tape regulations that labor and the greens love imposing.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 20 July 2015 4:04:54 AM
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