"extraordinary benevolence"?

You jest.

A truly benevolent person would be champing at the bit to ensure that the refugees in camps were given priority, not economic migrants and other unsavoury opportunists who can afford to pay criminals the equivalent of a First Class airfare to defraud a host country and stymie the chances of real refugees.

Labor PM Kevin Rudd, his Foreign Minister, Bob Carr and other senior Labor figures freely admitted that they had been admitting economic migrants who had taken advantage of Australia. They sought to send some back but too late for their government.

There are a lot of BS artists constantly negging Australia, but they are NOT the 'do-gooders' they claim to be from their undeserved podiums of moral superiority. Most are just looking for a way to hurt the democratically elected government that they never wanted and reject.

SM,

"..... Secondly, about 60% of those coming by air were rapidly deported..."

Firstly, how many were deported?

Secondly, you have no idea of those figures. Are you telling me that if a foreign student, already studying in Australia, made an application for asylum, that they weren't granted due process - and that they were rapidly deported?

Thirdly, I just trawled around to find the immigration dept document from which I sourced those figures from 2011-12 - and found that the address now takes you to general page which features Border Force crap and other paraphernalia, but doesn't take you to the document...so it's been removed or mothballed, otherwise I may have been able to provide some data for you on non-IMA successful applications.

(Not that you seem much interested in actual data:)

Poirot,

Perhaps you should read your own links. Many of those air arrivals applying for asylum are coming from India, China, etc which are not countries in conflict, and where there is no assumption of danger. Unlike people fleeing war zones, the asylum seeker has to make a robust case as to why he is being persecuted. Foreign students having paid $10 000s for tuition in Aus would find it difficult.

Due process would involve a review by a tribunal and then unless they could provide substantial evidence, they would be given the option of deportation or detention.

Dear O Sung Wu,

My concern is that you are blaming an entire group
of people for the actions of a few that were caught.
Anyone can ask for asylum - even criminals. However,
most criminals wouldn't come by leaky boat because that would
entail the risk of detention while being assessed and
police scrutiny. Stopping criminals from coming to this
country as you know is no easy task. They have the money
and the connections. Many apparently come as part of the
crew on large cargo vessels. Others simply fly in.

Did you happen to watch the Four Corners episodes on the
Calabrian Mafia and their tentacles here in Australia
with highly-placed politicians?

Interesting program.

In any case as I've stated - over 90 percent of boat people
who asked for asylum - did turn out to be genuine refugees.

Now if my preference for facts on this issue
someway makes me "stubborn" in your eyes.
I dare say that's something I shall have to learn to live
with.

Have a nice evening.

Hi Foxy,

" .... over 90 percent of boat people who asked for asylum - did turn out to be genuine refugees."

With sixty million genuine refugees in the world, mostly 'out-of-sight' genuine refugees, that's neither here nor there: for every person who successfully jumps the queue (and, yes, there is) somebody in some hell-hole, with not a penny to their name, misses out, and stays another few years in hell.

But thanks for your concern for the well-being of those who can pay.

Joe

Fox, " over 90 percent of boat people who asked for asylum - did turn out to be genuine refugees"

Not according to Labor PM Kevn Rudd, his Foreign Minister Bob Carr and other senior Labor figures who admitted that many 'asylum seekers' allowed in under their watch were in fact economic migrants.

Even apart from their admission, you know as does the rest of Australia that there was practically no sieve applied at all such was the concern of the then Labor and Labor+Greens governments to lower the reported number and problem of economic migrants and other opportunists who took advantage of the expensive boat trips via the criminal people smuggler travel agents. No docs, no worries and repeat this story, then in free.

You have been informed of these facts many, many times, but still you repeat the obviously untrue, discredited (by the Labor government itself!) and laughable, '90 percent turn out to be genuine' claim.