onthebeach - Don't forget the millions that the charities are making to look after them, at the expense of the people they originally were set up to help Australians.

Too bad for them there is no convention that says you have by law to look after your own people and make sure they are ALL housed, fed and receive medical help

o sung wu,

"Your venom for those of the LNP and their followers, is really chilling, almost eerie..."

My "venom" for the likes of Abbott has a very sound foundation - this man is seen as a mendacious fool - almost a crackpot - and not just by many in Australia, but also by much of the world's press. He's a dangerous idiot who we'd be better served if he was selling dodgy used cars to the unwary.

Any passing "venom" toward you, on the other hand,has "nothing" to do with your support for the current Coalition.

Articulate as you are, and supposedly humble, you're quick to deploy your brand of scathing eloquence - so that someone who has a genuine beef with an incompetent and foolish govt becomes, in your methodology, someone with "venom" that is "chilling, almost eerie".

Let me tell you what's chilling and almost eerie - and that's your ability to shape shift on these threads.

"Sadly POIROT it seems as if just about everything on this Site gets your 'gander' up ? It's a wonder you can even tolerate giving 'the Forum', anything but a 'fleeting glance', given the emotional distress you must feel each and every time a sadistic soul like me, points the muzzle of his M82A1 Barrett above the parapet ?"

Don't lecture me about getting my gander up. Anyone who seen your caustic retorts when yours is up would know that's the pot calling the kettle black.

And yes, yes...we all know by now that you like to repeatedly mention your gun. But thrilling as it is, I think I'll mosey along, if you don't mind....it's all a bit to chilling and eerie for my liking.

Philip S, my quoting of you was correct, and it showed your total lack of humanity, wriggle all you like. Tell me, what concern do you have for these people in boats. You favor the Australian navy sinking their craft if they fail to stop after a warning shot has been put across the bow, do you not? Men, women and children in the drink, end of story. Stopping or continuing would be a matter for the 'captain' and not the passengers, unless somehow they took control.
Lay off Poirot, all you are attempting to do is deflect attention away from your real disgusting attitude to the lives of these unfortunate people.

How many of the 'Usual Suspect' are now putting themselves forward as forum legal experts on domestic and international law. Me old sparring partner, Shadow Minister, is forever touting himself as the forums resident Clarence Darrow, something he is clearly not. Fortunately Bazz, I take your legal opinions with a grain of salt, Shadow might think he is some kind of legal wig, you however when it comes to the law appear to be a know all version of Dennis Denuto, its the vib, its Marbo, well its blatantly obvious you do not know the law at all and only pretend too. Well when it comes to defending the legal actions of this atrocious government of yours, you pretend to know the law.

Foxy please do not say "I am not a lawyer so I don't know all the ins and outs involved."

Not knowing the law is no impediment to one giving a learned legal opinion, just ask Shadow, Bazz and a few other conservative posters on here, they do it all the time.

Philip S, no egg on my face, I am no Labor supporter, and have little regard for Silly Billy, or his predecessors, on this matter. I am a fully paid up member of The NSW Greens. Since Rudd, nothing Labor does surprises me. Before the last election I regularly said on here Australia needed a dose of Abbottism.

Poirot,

Did you actually pick up a dictionary for the first time and realise that crooks cannot be bribed. Was it a light bulb moment for you?

I could similarly claim that labor murdered 1200 asylum seekers, but the word murder is incorrect, and gross negligence is more applicable.

Secondly I never claimed that the drivers of the boat weren't people smugglers, just that the money was not going to the organizers of the people trafficking so your claim of incentivising smuggling was false.

Poirot and Paul,

How do you feel about Labor paying the people smugglers when they were in power?

Shadow Minister,

"Secondly I never claimed that the drivers of the boat weren't people smugglers..."

Here's what you posted:

"If payments were made as claimed, they were not to people traffickers, just to drivers of the boats..."