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Should We Pay People Smugglers?
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Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 4:13:28 PM
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o sung wu,
"Personally POIROT, I couldn't bear to exist in such a volatile state of enmity or execration toward anyone or anything, for that reason I feel very sorry for you." Er...I'm not the one who posted twice that he'd like to see people off by wielding the muzzle of a .50 cal. Barrett. It kind of gets my gander up when we're talking of defenceless women and children bobbing around on the ocean in desperation. So your statement: "Personally POIROT, I couldn't bear to exist in such a volatile state of enmity or execration toward anyone or anything...." kind of falls flat when you're espousing that kind of dire action. So I'm: ".... totally devoured in a 'haze of hatred' for just one ordinary political party and it's leader, than to be completely consumed by every single word, every decision, or statement that emanates from them or their spokesperson ?" Lol!....we have one of the most incompetent, sneaky, dishonest govts ever to hold tenure. A govt and a leader who provides headline fodder, hilarity and dismay every second day - I criticise them because they are so profoundly hopeless and the usual suspects here yodel "hater". What a joke - stump up a competent Coalition and I'll be happy - got that? ..... SM, You'd do well to stop playing with semantics. Not technically bribery, my foot. Not technically people smugglers, my foot. What do you call people who turn up with with a boat load of people attempting to smuggle them onto Oz soil? Well, golly gee...I'll give you 24 hours to work that one out. Here's the money. http://www.smh.com.au/world/people-smuggler-cash-stacks-paid-to-send-asylum-seekers-on-a-suicide-mission-20150616-ghpa36.html "And in a blistering attack, the head of the people smuggling division of the Nusa Tenggara Timur province, Ibrahim, said sending 65 asylum seekers back to Indonesia on two boats with just a drum of fuel each was akin to "a suicide mission", asking "where is the humanity?"." Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 5:35:04 PM
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Oh dear Paul, I guess one case where you have waited until you fou d out what the other side was doing before bagging Abbott. At least then you would not have to wipe the egg off your face.
Personally, I don't care what Abbott does to stop the rot Rud caused, so long as it works as I would suggest a hundred grand spent over there would save a hundred million here. It could well go down as a stroke of genies, but please do remember, RUDD caused this and Abbott is simply trying to not only fix something labor couldn't, but something they also caused. Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 5:38:53 PM
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The Indonesian police are upset because if paying works less people will use the smugglers, hence there cut of the profits will dry up.
In Indonesia you could not congregate the so called refugees anywhere without the local police knowing about them. Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 6:29:00 PM
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Good evening to you POIROT...
'...defenceless men, women and children bobbing around in the ocean desperate...' and you would know that, how ? Sadly POIROT it seems as if just about everything on this Site gets your 'gander' up ? It's a wonder you can even tolerate giving 'the Forum', anything but a 'fleeting glance', given the emotional distress you must feel each and every time a sadistic soul like me, points the muzzle of his M82A1 Barrett above the parapet ? Your venom for those of the LNP and their followers, is really chilling, almost eerie. It's as well our language is merely speculative and allegorical, rather than speaking in strategic or tactical terms ? Someone with a highly receptive state of mind, may assume a 'conspiracy of hate' is somehow emerging from within the suburbs. And that would never do ? Best I put the Barrett to bed, and you send a warm letter, expressing your utmost support, for your local Liberal Party candidate and our Prime Minister. And in so doing, both of us may well assuage anyone who's job it is to appraise Sites such as this ? Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 9:30:29 PM
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Philip S,
Agreed. There is money to being made out of economic migrants, there and here. Significantly less being made by the horde of lawyers, consultants and bureaucrats here since the Abbott government came to power to interrupt the noxious trade. Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 10:04:53 PM
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And if it works, will the Labour-lovers trumpet that it was their idea in the first place ?
Dear Foxy,
I didn't say that I supported the idea, just that it might work. As it happens, I believe that the refugee quotas should be increased, especially given the dreadful conditions of life for people in Syria and for the Rohingya in Burma.
Yes, of course, ultimately the problems have to be resolved at source, but that doesn't seem to be likely any time soon. In the meantime, an affluent country like ours should be doing more.
But no queue-jumpers - and please don't say there isn't a queue. Of course, it would not be a straightforward first-come-first-served system, because it would have to take into account the dire severity or otherwise of a particular person's situation. But all in all, yes, there would be a queue of applicants to process. All things being equal, why should anybody be able to short-cut that process ?
Joe