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When should we revoke citizenship?

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Saw this article this morning and thought it may generate some interesting views

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/sunday-explainer-new-powers-allowing-the-government-to-revoke-citizenship-20150530-ghce2q

Should we revoke Aus citizenship of dual nationals that go to fight for IS? What about those that only have Aus citizenship? Do we disown them or only if they qualify for citizenship of another country.

Should this be decided by a government minister or by a court?
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 31 May 2015 9:42:21 AM
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Banjo "Should we revoke Aus citizenship of dual nationals that go to fight for IS?"
Yes, Revoke their Australian passport and let their other country deal with them. I believe we should not allow these fighters back into Australia, but their family back here in Australia should not be penalised for his actions.

" What about those that only have Aus citizenship? "
No, they need to come back to Australia, face the courts, and be jailed here. They are our problem, and we should deal with our own citizens.

"Do we disown them or only if they qualify for citizenship of another country."
If they aren't already a dual national, then I doubt another country would grant a terrorist citizenship! We need to own these people and deal with them through our court systems.

"Should this be decided by a government minister or by a court?"
Definitely through a court system, either here or overseas.
We don't want our politicians to have any more power than they already have.
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 1 June 2015 12:31:33 AM
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Basically I agree with Suseonline. The only other proviso I think should be added is: ISIS fighters that are returning to Australia need to be isolated from the general population from the time they arrive until the Court has decided their fate.

We don't know the intentions of these terrorist/Islamic extremists; we don't really know why they want to come back. So rather than risk them doing harm to others while awaiting their trial (potentially with their freedom under threat) we need to ensure they are contained.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Monday, 1 June 2015 6:41:24 AM
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//Should we revoke Aus citizenship of dual nationals that go to fight for IS?//

A quick search hasn't uncovered any statistics but I suspect that the two most common types dual citizens will be Australian/British citizens and Australian/New Zealand citizens. Is it really fair to go palming these murderous cnuts off to the poms and the kiwis? Bit of a bum deal New Zealand - we'll take your Russell Crowes and your John Clarkes, and in return you can have these terrorists that we don't want any more.

//What about those that only have Aus citizenship?//

Yes. Let them rot over in the Middle East where they can't do us any harm.

//We need to own these people and deal with them through our court systems.//

Why? The cost/benefit analysis doesn't stack up. I can't see any benefits to letting them back in - only considerable costs. Whereas exiling them has numerous benefits and won't cost as much. You do the math.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 1 June 2015 7:44:08 AM
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We should revoke citizenship of any non born Australian that commits a serious crime, that being to take the life of a fellow being, commit violent rape of commit any act of terrorism.

If they happen to be Australian born and, depending on the severity of the crime, they should have their passport revoked and be made wear a transmitting bracelet for life along with life long reporting requirements no if's no buts.

Innocent citizens must be protected from anyone who brings harm to others.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 1 June 2015 8:30:55 AM
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Yes, citizenshiip should be revoked.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 June 2015 9:20:36 AM
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