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Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 22 May 2015 12:56:21 PM
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warmair - The empathy you want us to take would last a lifetime for thousands as they are unemployable and would be a burden on the taxpayers and the health system.
The earth quake is a one off cost, welfare for lifers are a lifetime cost. Rightly so The Government are looking after Australians first. Approx 1.3 million refugees in Myanmar alone only an idiot or a greenie or a country that gives refugees nothing not one cent would send Ocean Liners to pick them up. You may not like reality or basic economics even compassion has a dollar limit. Posted by Philip S, Friday, 22 May 2015 12:56:58 PM
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These are early days and the world is just starting to see the effects of what is likely to become very large scale movements of migrants who prefer a better lifestyle and prospects to what they have now.
Big rewards for a lifetime justify big risks as some see it. Some are more than willing to exchange very large sums with organised crime to get in undetected, or at least be able to use emotional blackmail to get what they want. Why has the definition of refugee been broadened? Who gains outside of the economic migrant? Secondary agendas? However the fact remains, look at Burma on the map and tell me why Australia should be setting itself up to solve the deliberate social problems and over-population of other countries far away. Problems that those people and countries have manufactured themselves and should be responsible for solving. While at home in Australia our own young working couples are putting off the children they want until late in life and then either don't have the children they want, while being forced into enormously expensive and risky medical interventions to assist their diminished or lost eggs? Go volunteering your own money folks as you wish, but do not expect young Aussie workers to shoulder the burdens of welfare at home, foreign aid (sometimes to boost the UN career expectations of politicians) and an additional burden for life of more economic migrants on the Centrelink, housing and medical treatment queues. Your compassion and their sacrifice, the sacrifice of our children and grandchildren who inherit the costs, both social and economic. Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 22 May 2015 1:23:39 PM
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It is not a normal practice of mine to post links but this is a timely story of compassion and the impact it had on so many lives.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/jeon-62174-nguyen-captain.html Common humanity. It appears some have it in good measure, others... Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 22 May 2015 1:39:25 PM
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SteeleRedux - Heart warming story but it does not have parallels to the current situation.
Also how many on that boat would have done what they did if they were told they would be financially responsible for ALL expenses incurred by these people for the rest of there lives. As stated before. You may not like reality or basic economics even compassion has a dollar limit. Posted by Philip S, Friday, 22 May 2015 2:05:42 PM
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It is easy to be compassionate and charitable when someone else pays the costs you do not have to pay.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 22 May 2015 2:08:05 PM
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My apologies for failing to answer your thread that you'd specifically directed to me in a timely manner ? A headache and sore eyes I'm afraid.
Your legitimate concerns over the dangers of having your precious daughters unnecessarily exposed to a large group of Rohingya refugees, if they happened to be resettled here; In my view represents no greater or lesser degree of risk, than perhaps any other Islamic ethnic group of refugees ?
It's entirely my contention, those from a Muslim background DO NOT assimilate alongside those with Christian or secular antecedents ! Jay, I'm very much a pragmatists, I've not an ounce of academic exposure to my name. I learn (only) from evidenced based experience.
Therefore everywhere you care to cast your eye around this world of ours, there is armed conflict, of one sort or another, involving Muslims ! In fact Muslims can't even get along with Muslims ! And yet there are those amongst us (some with good intentions, no doubt) who wish to import 'FURTHER' Islamic religious feuding, into our country ?
For what it's worth I can share this small fact with you too Jay, the authorities are barely able to adequately contain and accommodate, the burgeoning rise of Islamic unrest and insurrection in our major cities as it is. For this reason, governments must not be intimidated (by the ineffectual UN) into making their task even more difficult, by introducing further numbers of Islamic refugees for resettlement.
Therefore JAY of MELBOURNE, While I don't actually (specifically) agree with your premise, concerning a total prohibition on all Rohingya refugees per se. What is urgently needed is a Bill that should be ratified by parliament, and enacted upon ASAP, that reads inter alia, '...there will be no further Islamic refugees, permanently resettled into Australia...' !
I trust my explanation meets with your understanding there Jay ?