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The Forum > General Discussion > It aint gunna rain no more, no more,

It aint gunna rain no more, no more,

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"Well to be quite frank warmair, it makes you look like right old tosser."

Talking of tossers, what do you reckon about this state of affairs, spindoc?

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2015/5/8/china/china-set-cut-more-coal-production

"China plans to shut down 1,254 coal mines in an effort to eliminate 77.79 million tonnes of outdated production capacity in 2015, as the country continues to clean up its high-polluting industries.

The move is aimed at promoting the use of renewable energy and curbing the expansion of the coal industry, according to a joint statement released by the National Energy Administration (NEA) and State Administration of Coal Mine Safety.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang has indicated that Beijing intends to move forward on a proposal to hold down coal consumption growth in "key areas".

Coal production in China declined 2.5 per cent last year, the first drop in 14 years, while coal consumption dropped 2.9 per cent, according to the country’s coal industry association.

In March, the China Coal Industry Association estimated that 90 per cent of all coal mines in the country were making losses, and official data indicates profit margins for the industry have fallen to a 10-year low."
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 9 May 2015 5:50:48 PM
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Evenning Spindoc

If you take the time to carefully check what I wrote you will see that there is no contradiction between what I said and what the IPCC says.

As for your comment about no global warming since 1998. The IPCC says the rate of warming has not increased in a statistically significant way, which is totally different to saying temperatures have not increased. The chances are now very high, that we are going to see an El Nino event this summer which if it eventuates, will likely push the temperatures well over the 1998 El Nino year.

I see that when the going gets tough you like to resort to unkind personal comments which frankly does nothing for your case.
Posted by warmair, Saturday, 9 May 2015 9:49:56 PM
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Sorry warmair you've got your floods facts quite wrong.

The really bad recent Brisbane flood 2011 was not mitigated by Wivenhoe, but due to incompetent bureaucrats was actually augmented by the thing. They went home over the weekend, & discovered on Monday morning, they had a dam at 190%. Yes 190&. They had allowed the flood mitigation half of the dam to fill over the weekend, & had to go to massive water release, just as the rainfall reached it's peak.

Brisbane would have had much less flooding without the Wivenhoe, as it was operated. We now have a new operation manual for the dam, but as it is operated by bureaucrats, I doubt it will help much.

There is also considerable opinion that things like the riverside expressway, & the pylons for the gateway bridge have a strangling effect on the lower river, causing flood levels above them to be higher than previously. This was also hushed very quickly to avoid compensation claims.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 9 May 2015 10:48:36 PM
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+1 to Hasbeen's post

Also add the flash flooding and damage caused by lack of one-way control valves/gates on the large storm drains and other pipes on the Brisbane River. Particularly on bends in the river the sudden release from Wivenhoe rammed water up huge pipes and creeks to inundate areas that had never flooded before, for example in areas of Indooroopilly.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 9 May 2015 11:06:16 PM
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If indeed global warming occurs, along with such effects as less rain, then the simple and straight-forward explanation to that is that the prayers of the AGW faithful are being answered.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 10 May 2015 12:40:45 AM
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China is a country run by the Public Service for the benefit of the communist government. They will do what is in their best interests. If they shut down their coal mines it is as likely so they can purchase cheap coal from other countries using the money they get from being the world's factory.
They are far more pragmatic and do not have to care about any others opinions. They will do what the like, savvy?
With these sea level rises I am a bit confused. The Seychelles in the 1970's said they would be inundated by the year 2000? I was taught that water finds its own level so whats going on?
Posted by JBowyer, Sunday, 10 May 2015 8:26:54 AM
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