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What does capital punishment actually achieve?

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cont'd ...

BTW: You missed the point of the real core of
Christ's moral teaching. Christ taught that
the vendetta and the desire for revenge are
totally inappropriate responses for his followers.
Your arguments are most inappropriate.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 11:58:37 AM
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yes Foxy and you can distort the facts to hide the truth. You of all should know that.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 11:59:26 AM
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Thanks for that, runner. That’s a good demonstration of what I meant by basing what is “obvious” or “common sense” on incomplete or incorrect information.

You’ve also ignored the distinction that I pointed out earlier of ‘no more of a deterrent than LWOP’ and ‘not a deterrent at all’.

You appear to be applying rational choice theory quite biasedly, I've noticed. Obviously you favour it. So can you explain to me how you were able to determine that it is equally relevant to both drink driving and drug trafficking? How did you determine that the life-course trajectories, turning points and transitions that place an individual at a greater risk of committing each of those crimes were irrelevant to your application of rational choice theory?

Or are you just speaking rubbish again?

I love how conservatives on OLO think this stuff is so simple. According to them, a good clip around the earhole and harsher sentencing could replace the need for criminological studies entirely. Why, I've seen two conservatives on OLO claim that poverty can't be a contributing factor to [street] crime because there's not much crime in rural areas.

You couldn't make this stuff up!
Posted by AJ Philips, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 12:30:03 PM
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'I love how conservatives on OLO think this stuff is so simple'

actually AJ it is the regressives who twist things that are so simple that they can't add one and one. I strongly suspect it is your flawed narratives that produce such illogical results. It is actually the stuff you make up in your head that leads you to ridiculous conclusions.

'According to them, a good clip around the earhole and harsher sentencing could replace the need for criminological studies entirely.

actually AJ there was far less crime with kids when they did get a clip around the ears instead of the endless excuses the 'criminological studies'come up with for disgusting behaviour. You don't really have the intellectual dishonesty to believe that 'criminological studies' are going to give an accurate picture. Give us a break. Give me the man on the street anyday.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 12:44:36 PM
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You really don’t have anything, do you runner?

<<actually AJ it is the regressives who twist things that are so simple that they can't add one and one. I strongly suspect it is your flawed narratives that produce such illogical results. It is actually the stuff you make up in your head that leads you to ridiculous conclusions.>>

Where is your evidence for this? Let me guess, it’s your “common sense”.

<<actually AJ there was far less crime with kids when they did get a clip around the ears instead of the endless excuses the 'criminological studies'come up with for disgusting behaviour.>>

No, there was more crime, we just didn't hear about it as much, and crime was more narrowly defined back in the 'good ol' days'. But you knew I was going to say that and came up with this little conspiracy theory in anticipation of it...

<<You don't really have the intellectual dishonesty to believe that 'criminological studies' are going to give an accurate picture.>>

Where is your evidence for the alleged deceit? It’s your “common sense” again, isn’t it?

How is it, too, that out of millions of academics, somehow no-one blows the whistle? I bet it’s the Illuminati!

<<Give me the man on the street anyday.>>

Yeah because his limited observations are really going to be more reliable than over 100 years of research and data.

Looks like my initial point - about you simply believing whatever you want - still stands.
Posted by AJ Philips, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 1:13:45 PM
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Oh AJ its just my imagination that I used to leave my home and car unlocked and never got broken into. Its just my imagination that teachers in all my time at school never got bashed. Its just my imagination that suicide happens among the youth in my community weekly when it rarely occured before. Your conclusions are pathetic.

'How is it, too, that out of millions of academics, somehow no-one blows the whistle? I bet it’s the Illuminati!

just ask any scientist who has tried a little honesty when exposing the gw fraud. Oh thats right academics are exempt from deceit and corruption. Keep wanting to believe AJ even though what you see says otherwise. And you claim to believe in science!
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 1:28:45 PM
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