"According to many sources, they were reformed young men who touched
the lives of many people"

According to the 'fact-checking' taxpayer-funded national broadcaster's expert on Indonesia (a reporter) early this am, these 'boys' were only doing 'boy' things and they are heroes, typical Aussies and jolly good blokes, made even better (Saints almost), by the Indonesian prison system, which might not be so good in the food and accommodation departments, but is truly excellent for individual support, heaps of culture -unlike those mean Oz gaols and offers a good Kumbaya atmosphere.

So it would make very good sense to:

- close those Aussie prisons criticised in the same report as harsh and lacking the social (and cultural?) interests and contract out, ship Oz crims to Indonesian gaols; and

- close all churches. -Given that the 'fact-checking' ABC has given the Indonesian prison system its Gold Stamp of Approval for its success in converting convicts.

Whatever you do, never mention this,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2869230/Bali-Nine-ringleader-Andrew-Chan-mastermind-international-drug-deal-went-horribly-wrong-threatened-17-year-old-mule-Hong-Kong-jail-mouth-shut.html

Or that the amount of heroin they were trafficking could lead to half a million* and more kids becoming addicts.

*A guess that could be far too conservative. Perhaps some of the knowledgeable on drugs could convert those kilograms of heroin into needles and hazard a guess on the consequences, direct and indirect.

I agree with Australia's domestic policy on capital punishment. Also that trafficking that quantity of drugs is a very serious offence. The offenders chose their crime/s and where to commit the offences and they encouraged or forced others to take part.

Foxy,

You asked "What does capital punishment actually achieve?"

Zero repeat offenders.

In this instance it rids the world Oz in particular of a couple of horrible thugs, who had no thought of those they harmed, until a good act may have just got them out of the crap they had got themselves into.

It means they won't have an army of bleeding hearts crying for years, until we finally get them released back to Oz, where they would be out on the street in no time.

If applied more often, when it should have been, quite a few women would not have been raped & killed by serial rapists. Those rapists, who should have been put down are always released by some fool physiologist reports to bleeding heart parole boards.

The only way to stop this bleeding heart rot, getting the now reformed, [HA], rapists & other vicious criminals released to rape & kill again is to top them permenantly.

I don't give a damn if it deters anyone else, it sure as hell stops the one executed from offending again. There are quite a few women who deserved to be alive who aren't because of the bleeding heart mentality. I don't know how they can live with themselves.

Capital punishment, as I stated earlier is not
about deterrence but retribution.

In the case of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran
their execution will not either deter drug trafficking or
stop drug abuse in Indonesia.

Keeping those two alive in prison may
have helped many of the prison population because
apparently those two men were achieving success in
giving classes and lessons to others in prison in their
fight against drugs. It is ironic therefore that they were killed
on the pretext in a "war against drugs." A decision made by a
very unpopular President whose motives were obviously
political.

The Sydney Morning Herald describes the tentacles of
crime-syndicates spreading beyond major cities to
rural areas in Indonesia and telling us that 45% of
South East Asia's narcotics market is in Indonesia.
Those involved with these syndicates are Indonesia's
police force and it is alleged, the military.

Indonesia's judiciary is also riddled with
graft - a seemingly impenetrable barrier to convictions
for drug barons.

Bribes taken by police is endemic. Notorious night-spots
where drug use is rife we're told - are also owned by prominent
military and police figures. We're further told that
rampant drug use in the prison population also needs
to be addressed. Many
drug dealers continue to organise their networks on the
outside.

There are many questions that need to be asked - however,
as our leaders have stated - now is not the time to do it
out of respect for the families of the deceased.

Foxy "Keeping those two alive in prison may have helped many of the prison population because apparently those two men were achieving success in giving classes and lessons to others in prison in their fight against drugs."

Maybe I am being a bit cynical Foxy, but if these 2 guys had had their death sentences commuted to life imprisonment, they would have no 'incentive' to continue being the apparent holy paragons of virtue they turned into.

I do not support the death penalty at all, especially by firing squad, but I don't think these guys had 'turned their lives around" out of remorse for their wrong doing, but rather in a frantic effort to escape the firing squad.
Mind you, I would have done the same thing...

This is what makes Australians really mad is the injustice done to Australians killed in Bali.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/bali-terrorist-muhammad-cholili-freed-on-parole-as-18year-jail-sentence-halved/story-fni0cx12-1227017261729