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What does capital punishment actually achieve?

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Dear Is Mise,

You may find the following link of some interest:

http://theconversation.com/utahs-firing-squad-plan-is-another-twist-in-americas-long-quest-for-a-perfect-execution-method-39293

The article raises issues that
are quite thought provoking.

We're told that shooting people does kill them more
quickly or reliably then electrocuting, gassing, or
poisoning them. However, it is harder to watch or read
about than lethal injection.
We're also told quite graphically about the horrific errors
involved with lethal injection.

One of the thoughts put forward is that guns uncomfortably blur
the line between the righteous violence of the state and the
lawless violence of the criminal. The gun we're told is,
historically speaking - the only instrument of execution that is
also commonly used by criminals. Its use in executions reminds us
of a past in which there was less of a distinction between the
state that carried out the law and those it punished.

The author states that its jarring loudness, its bloodiness
and its mutilating effects on the body, brings execution by
firing squad much closer to expressing the "eye for an eye"
logic. According to the author this will tend to remind
people that executions are indeed acts of extreme,
body-mutilating violence.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 1 May 2015 9:10:00 PM
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Yes POIROT & FOXY...

It would appear both of these fellows seemed to have been consigned to their fate, which would take a great deal of courage I would've thought ? Whether either of them were truly repented and rehabilitated, who'd know ? I've known some real 'heavies' in my time, and they'll surprise you on many levels ?

On one hand they leave you dumbfounded when they overtly display compassion for someone or other, and simultaneously leave you equally stunned on the callous level of their savagery upon another ? The only common denominator is their unabated viciousness with a fellow crim if that particular crim happens to give 'em up or cross them in some way ?

I guess I shouldn't be at all surprised at anything they may do, given they're society's misfits ! As they're generally considered, not as well adjusted to our accepted social mores and standards, as most of society's inhabitants ?

Back to Messrs CHAN and SUKUMARAN, I can only hope, both have made their peace, to their Gods, or some other higher value they may've both held dear ?
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 1 May 2015 9:43:06 PM
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Something from left field, and totally unexpected. The Australian Catholic University is to offer scholarships in honour of executed drug smugglers Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran.
As one who is totally opposed to the death penalty I am at a loss to explain this one. I sympathies with the cause opposed to their execution, but I'm not about to put them up on as pedestal as some kind of martyrs to that cause, I still recognise they committed a very serious criminal act.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-01/bali-nine-scholarships-honour-of-chan-and-sukumaran-odd-abbott/6439222
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 2 May 2015 7:24:59 AM
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Paul,

"In NSW that is less than 4% of the voting public, and Bob Ballsup just fell in at position 19 from 21, needed a swag of preferences from nobody's to get elected. So much for the pro shooting lobby, their non existent policies are of no consequence anyway. so who cares what they make of capital punishment."

None the less they do serve their constituents and unlike the Greens do not attempt to hinder the law-abiding activities of other people, also, unlike the Greens, they do not lie in Parliament and hide behind Parliamentary Privilege.

If you can show me one lie that they have told in Parliament I'll give you four Green MPs lies; of course I'll be spared the effort.

"....so who cares what they make of capital punishment."

So why ask?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 2 May 2015 8:40:15 AM
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As a Catholic I fully realize that any Catholic University can make dimwitted decisions.

A push for canonization will come later.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 2 May 2015 9:05:37 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

Just a case of a loose canon running a muck.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 2 May 2015 9:29:17 AM
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