Dear otb,

Perhaps the criminals didn't identify their co-conspirators because they could expect to be killed in prison if they did. Perhaps they didn't after they knew they were going to be executed because they could expect retribution to hit their families.

Hi there ONTHEBEACH...

What a truly emotive poem you've kindly cited herein ! I'm very grateful indeed that you've seen fit to include it in this particular Topic. Whereas often it's the crooks who seem to be lauded as hero's not police, for they're generally derided for their actions rather than for the positive contribution they each provide the community as a whole.

By providing that excerpt, you've honoured every single person who's ever chosen to wear the blue uniform. I thank you most profoundly for doing so. To think we even have a need to remind some people who precisely are the criminals in the scheme of things, is a very worrisome situation ?

Moreover to link the name of this brave soul, Constable Colleen WAIBEL (dec), in the same wretched circumstances as these two executed criminals, is indeed a very tragic illustration of our own impartiality and fair-mindedness I believe ?

Thank you again ONTHEBEACH, you've honoured every law-enforcement officer in this country !

ConservativeHippie,

The butterfly life cycle depiction was a metaphor.

The fundamental message of the cartoon was the period of metamorphosis (in this case, the pupa representing the period of incarceration) wherein rehabilitation is the outcome - and, finally, redemption.

I realise that this kind of thing flies a bit beyond the usual mentality of this forum...but there it was.

Poirot, I wonder if Jill Meagher & her family would agree with you that the more vicious criminals can indeed be rehabilitated.

Personally I have seen little evidence that they can be more than trained to delude the psychologist & parole boards into believing they have been.

Once eliminated they are no threat to anyone, & we can employ less of these naïve psychologist. Now that is a win win.

Hi there POIROT...

Thank you for your explanation of that specific cartoon, indeed it was rendered very well I thought. Concerning any sense of rehabilitation of CHAN and SUKUMARAN, ostensibly for all appearances they seemed to be far better human beings now, than the day they were apprehended. Whether or not they were technically restored back from whence they originally came, I don't know ?

Prima facia they certainly appeared to be ? CHAN an ordained Minister, while SUKUMARAN, a talented artist ? I honestly don't really know ? I knew quite a bit about Mr Myuran SUKUMARAN, and he was a real waste of space. A thug, standover man, and a potential 'heavy' within the group in which he'd run. A great intimidator with the drug crew, for extracting inordinate amounts of 'product' from his kind using 'force' by proxy, to meet his objectives..........? Now, well we'll never know shall we ? As I've said ad nauseam, I'm against the Death Penalty.

Dear Hassie and O Sung Wu,

Not sure if this will help - but here goes anyway:

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/04/28/myuran-sukumaran-s-final-painting.html

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/andrew-chan-in-his-own-words-death-drugs-and-rugby-league/story-fni0cx12-1227325728323