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Aussie ISIS Doctor

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Dear Luciferase,

No they certainly do not.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 11:43:02 PM
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Dear Foxy,

I'm not sure what you're getting at - that we can rank atrocities ? and that compared to X or Y, ISIS isn't so bad, really ? Surely you're not suggesting this ?

An atrocity is an atrocity. The breaking of Freddy Gray's back and driving him over bumpy roads is an atrocity (I hope those b@stards get life). Murdering hundreds of women and children in northern Nigeria is an atrocity. And of course the murder of 300,000 in Bergen-Belsen, or a million Armenians and Greeks in 1915-1923 were atrocities.

So is the murder of thousands of Iraqis, Yazidis, Shi'ites, Kurds and Christians in Iraq and Syria by ISIS. And the murder of Chadians, Nigeriens, and Nigerians by Boko Haram. And the murder of hundreds of innocents by al-Shabaab in Kenya and Uganda and Somalia. Of Coptic Christians in Libya. Of tourists in Tunisia. Of fisherman and oil workers and quarry workers. Christ, where does it stop with fascists ?

I don't CARE about their psychological state, any more than I would have cared about the psychological state of Nazis. Nothing excuses the brutality of either ISIS or the Nazis.

So how do we unite to fight fascism ? Or do we lay on our bellies and open our legs, like so many of the Left seem to want to do ? Surely fascism must be combatted and eventually defeated ? We have to take it seriously, and not play some stupid 'nyah-nyah' game on the basis that ISIS may not be so bad because it's anti-American. (Surely the Left is not that infantile ? Okay, yes, it probably is). It may take decades, but the destruction of Islamo-fascism is vital to the future of a world in which secularism, equal rights of men and women and the rule of law, is possible.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 11:51:41 PM
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Loudmouth,
You're jumping to conclusions, the Police who arrested Freddie Gray were wearing body cameras and by all accounts the arrest was legal, Gray was placed in the van with several other negro male criminals and driven to the station where he was found to be injured and taken to hospital, he died a week later. The most likely scenario is that Gray was kicked, stomped or otherwise injured by rival drug dealers or rival gang members while in the van, it's not even a death in custody, it's just a death. Wait for the Police to be cleared of charges in this case.
The media treatment of legal police shootings of criminals in the U.S is not truthful or honest, the media treatment of the National Socialist regime in 1945 and beyond was not truthful or honest either so why do you assume that the media treatment of Islamic State is honest or truthful?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 6:42:17 AM
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Jay,

Do you think that the videos released by ISIS are fakes?
Are the postings on Facebook etc., fakes?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 8:41:05 AM
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Jay said to Suseonline: people like Suse just ignore the accounts of what American Indians and Australian Aborigines were actually like, how habitually violent, unpredictable and wantonly destructive they were.

Both the American Indians and Aborigines were fighting to defend their nations/lands from being taken by invaders. Are you saying the whites who conquered these people were not habitually violent, unpredictable and wantonly destructive? Ever read anything about General Custer?
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 10:34:25 AM
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Dear Joe (Loudmouth), and Is Mise,

I am just looking for some answers to these complex issues.

And, talking about these issues does not equal condoning
or supporting them.

There's also another question that shouold be
asked - what is the best way to stop Isis?

Taken from another link - we're told that -
Western boots on the ground haven't worked in Iraq
or Afghanistan and sending them back into the region
not only, (according to the experts) won't succeed -
it will give Isis even more opportunities to take
prisoners and of course valuable equipment. The website points out -
"dealing with evil can only be stopped in the
neighbourhood by its neighbours."

I watched "Four Corners" on Monday evening which showed
what the Kurdish fighters were achieving in the region.

One suggestion for the West - which made sense to me,
was to arm the Kurds with
everything they need. The weapons they are currently
using are old and out of date.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:06:43 PM
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