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Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 27 April 2015 12:56:57 PM
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Thank You for this discussion.
Kenan Malik in his recent article for the Guardian asks, "Why is it that so man intelligent and resourceful young people find an ideology that espouses mass beheadings, slave labour and the denial of rights to women more appealing than anything else that is on offer?" He also asks, "How do seemingly intelligent people get radicalised? And how can we stop it from happening again?" We're told that "A recent report by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation suggests there are now 4,000 European fighters with Isis, a figure that had doubled over the past year." Malik asks, "What is it that draws thousands of young Europeans to a brital, sadistic organisation such as Isis? Religious beliefs? Not - according to Malik. The issues are complex. As you will see from the article: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/01/what-draws-jihadis-to-isis-identity-alienation Posted by Foxy, Monday, 27 April 2015 1:57:59 PM
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I think he just wants to get his share of virgins, it does not matter that they don't want him as under IS rape is okay against infidels.
He is also wanting for the babies to reach the age of 6 then he can have a wife or some wives. Posted by Philip S, Monday, 27 April 2015 2:37:53 PM
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Is Mise "Ha ha ha!".
It is good to see you have an intelligent opinion on the subject Is Mise, but I am pleased I have amused you. :) Cheers, Suse. Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 27 April 2015 2:54:30 PM
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Dear Foxy,
Thank you for the article. It ends with the unanswered question: "Why is it that so many intelligent and resourceful young people find an ideology that espouses mass beheadings, slave labour and the denial of rights to women more appealing than anything else that is on offer?" The answer is in the book "Lord of the Flies" by William Golding: those spoiled and bored kids just want to murder, rape and pillage and they happen to find an excuse for this in some version of Islam. Had this been unavailable, they would have looked for some other ideology that would allow them the same. << "How do seemingly intelligent people get radicalised? And how can we stop it from happening again?" >> They are not truly radicalised. Most do not even believe in Islam nor follow it - they just want to have fun. You can't stop it completely because we have free choice, but I believe that the numbers could be reduced by raising children in a warm and stable family, where they can be heard but also have clear boundaries. What also helps is to teach them to concentrate and channel their energy into constructive projects. Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 27 April 2015 3:55:27 PM
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Suse,
""Britain (mostly Christian at the time), sent it's criminals to Australia first as I recall, to take over the natives already inhabiting this land," Britain didn't try to take over this land, in fact the western half or so was French territory. Even a cursory understanding of the purpose of the First Fleet and you would know that religion was way down the list. If Britain wished as you say they intended, then why was the Mabo case a success for the indigenous people? Any attempt to force them into the Christian religion came much later, it was 25 years after the landing before the Dividing Range was first (officially) crossed. "I believe they did the same in Africa, America and India, to name a few...." The Dutch had long settled in Africa before Britain gained a foothold, and the Spaniards in North America. The first successful British (English) settlement in North America was made by people escaping the persecution of the, nominally Protestant, Church of England and was in no way missionary; as for India there were Christians there long before Britain shewed any interest and the East India Company was a trading venture and not at all interested in religion, hence India remains predominantly Hindu. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 27 April 2015 4:17:09 PM
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Tareq already proved to be of poor character, including his foolish drinking, womanising, crude pranks and hunting: we should not be surprised that one who likes the excitement of killing animals would also like the excitement of killing people.
This is not a clash of societies, nor religions (the article makes it clear that Tareq did not follow the laws of Islam), but a clash of the foolish and bored against those in their former life which could not offer them a positive sense of excitement.