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Aussie ISIS Doctor

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the usual secularist have never had any idea about Christ except to totally misrepresent and distort Him and His teachings. Its no wonder they are totally clueless when it comes to Islam. Oh well it stops them from facing reality. I doubt very much their grandkids will thank them.
Posted by runner, Monday, 27 April 2015 4:20:32 PM
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The doctor was a Muslim a follower (nominal or not)of Muhammad, and that sums it up.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 27 April 2015 4:35:28 PM
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Of COURSE it’s Islam. Of COURSE it’s a clash of societies. Well, almost. If it came down into a real clash with the Kafirs (non-believers, infidels, us) Islam would be reduced in short order to the same significance as the Charles Manson Family or David Koresh’s Branch Davidians of Waco fame.

So why is Islam still a credible threat? Simply because it still has massive unthinking support from the Kafir community against whom it wages jihad without end to impose the brutality and slavery it imposes where it can subdue opposition – as in its guises as Boko Haram, or the Taliban, or ISIS, or Al Shabab, or any of the nation states like Saudi Arabia and Iran in which it has managed to ban dissent.

The Kafir support comes in endless appeasement and apologetics and deflection and denial even though its message to the world in its holy books is as clear as Hitler’s in Mein Kampf. On these OLO threads and elsewhere the message of the Koran and the Hadiths and the declarations of countless imams and sheiks and ayatollahs and similar scoundrels, including activists like Hilaly and that creep who deflected Emma Alberici’s questions, who embarrass the sleepers because they won’t keep their mouths shut, are written and shouted and quoted and referenced in unmistakable clarity.

There will be no actual clash until the appeasement and apologetics is confronted and discredited using what the Enlightenment, hated by the Moslem cult, has given us – love of liberty, respect for evidence and the power of reason.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 27 April 2015 4:47:47 PM
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Thanks for the history lesson Is Mise, but you can't deny that Christian Missionaries from all so -called Western countries have involved themselves in the lives of native inhabitants of Australia, India, Africa and America in the past and now, in order to 'save' their souls?

Islamic countries seem to be trying to do the same thing now, albeit with a more violent method. I hope they don't succeed, as forcing your religious views on others never turns out well.

This doctor will face jail when (if) he returns home, even if all he does is treat the wounded ISIS soldiers. He is seriously in trouble even if he makes it out alive.
I doubt that all the other ISIS followers are all uneducated either however, so they are either misguided Muslims, or they are just violent criminals.
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 27 April 2015 4:49:32 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

The first successful English settlement was in Virginia in 1607. They were all or almost all Church of England. The second successful English settlement was by the Pilgrims who landed in Massachusetts. They were not escaping persecution at all. They were living in the Netherlands where they were completely free to practice their religion. They came back to England and took ship to North America. They came not to escape persecution but to establish a theocracy. They burned 'witches', hanged Quakers and massacred Indians who they regarded as 'children of the devil'. They were an intolerant, nasty bunch whose descendants rewrote their history.
Posted by david f, Monday, 27 April 2015 4:56:11 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

Thank You for reading the link that
I found interesting and wanted to share with
contributors to this discussion. I thought the
author raised some valid questions. However, you're right,
many hypotheses are offered but no definite
answers are given - only the suggestions of connections
with alienation and identity. Perhaps the issues are
too varied and complex. I am hoping that maybe more answers
will arise as a result of our discussion here.

Of course a loving family environment is important.
Yet we have no way of knowing - the family environments
of each and every one of the now young 4,000 European fighters with
Isis. A figure that has doubled over the past year,
according to Malik. Many of the parents of those
fighting were totally
surprised by the actions of their children.

I certainly don't have the answers, but I'll keep reading
what others have to say on this topic.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 27 April 2015 6:14:50 PM
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