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ANZAC Day - 2015, A century on. What does it mean for you ?
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Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 April 2015 7:25:54 AM
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Paul1405,
You are as usual very casual with your 'quotes' and your creative storytelling. Moving on, what WA does is quite irrelevant. What you are desperately trying to conceal is the hypocrisy and self-interest of the opportunist Greens and their mates the CFMEU who are trying to hitch a ride on ANZAC Day for secondary gain. As a Greens you are most happy disrespecting the military and those who serve, recently patronising Diggers who volunteered as dupes. What about you disclose if David Shoebridge has had prior role with the CFMEU and any benefits in particular support and money the Greens receive from the CFMEU? It seems that the Greens and Labor might have a lot in common. Here is an article about the CFMEU and Queensland Labor, <How CFMEU milked the workers and gave it to the ALP A FORMER High Court judge has found serious union wrongdoing in the Queensland building industry and recommended criminal charges against a union boss with strong links to the Palaszczuk Government. The Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption found there were bribes, extortion, secret commissions and “other unlawful payments’’ involving members of the CFMEU, a powerful union and Labor backer whose members in Queensland include Police Minister Jo-Ann Miller and Jim Pearce, the Member for Mirani. There were no suggestions of impropriety by Miller or Pearce although Justice John Dyson Heydon’s interim report to Parliament was scathing against their union. “The evidence indicates that a number of Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union officials seek to conduct their affairs with a deliberate disregard for the rule of law,’’ Heydon said. “That evidence is suggestive of the existence of a pervasive and unhealthy culture within the CFMEU, under which the law is to be deliberately evaded, or crashed through as an irrelevance.’’ He said union officials “prefer to lie rather than reveal the truth and betray the union”.> http://tinyurl.com/o3qhh3k Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 19 April 2015 2:00:32 PM
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contd..
I would assume that as a lawyer, Greens Shoebridge would not have any part in anything illegal. However it does raise serious questions about what the NSW 'Watermelon' Greens are doing apparently in bed with the CFMEU, a union that has a chequered history and that is putting it very mildly indeed. Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 19 April 2015 2:11:47 PM
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o sung wu,
There are political interests on both sides of politics who benefit from the superficial personality politics that are the vogue and the same people know that fear, greed etc sells newspapers and gives them free publicity to boot. The very last thing some politicians and governments want is accountability for their record in government and over an extended period. It was LNP politician and master of divisive politics PM Howard (even better at it than Mal Fraser), who gave the most significant and lasting boost to fear politics in Australia. For example, by wearing a bulletproof vest is address the public. Of course Howard had nothing to offer to stop the lone wolf, but he dishonestly would not say so, because he regarded the public as too immature to understand. No-one haa a proof against the lone wolf and determined assailants, as shown by Evan Pederick, Hilton Hotel bombing before. The answer is intel from observant, public-spirited relatives and friends. It is good policing to maintain good relations with the law-abiding public. The Greens protest party spruiks gun-ban fear politics, adopting Howard's political meme of 'gun culture' playing fast and loose with the truth as they do so. Any reasonable, thinking person would wonder why the Greens focus on sledging the thousands of law-abiding, respectable citizens who have obtained licences and can reliably expected to obey all laws. Yet the Greens talk up the 'rights' of outlaw motorcycle gangs who are implicated in all manner of crime, including violence with weapons, which they import. Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 19 April 2015 3:08:55 PM
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Beach, produce evidence of Greens "talk(ing) up the 'rights' of outlaw motorcycle gangs who are implicated in all manner of crime, including violence with weapons, which they import." OR is that simply an example of YOU playing fast and loose with the truth, something on this forum you are apt to do constantly.
What WA does is quite irrelevant, but what is done in Queensland is relevant. Can you enlighten me as to what are the relevant and irrelevant states. You choose to 'cheery pick' what suited your line from a Murdoch publication about the CFMEU and Greens, but left out any reference from the same article about The Fire Brigade Union or a poll on the subject taken for the paper. Why? Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 April 2015 3:36:35 PM
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Paul1405, "produce evidence of Greens "talk(ing) up the 'rights' of outlaw motorcycle gangs"
You are in denial, what about the Greens in the recent Qld State election? There is plenty in The Courier Mail and The Gold Coast Bulletin. You were given links earlier. You are also in denial concerning the NSW Greens and the CFMEU. See here, onthebeach, Saturday, 18 April 2015 7:11:12 PM Now, while on the subject of ANZAC Day, Q: What does ANZAC Day mean for the Greens? A: ? Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 19 April 2015 3:45:11 PM
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You launch a disparaging attack on me for participating in the democratic process, by standing for election, something you would soon see as unnecessary once your 'jackboot' regime was in place. Would it be a function of the "Shooters Club" to see to that?
You also said you were something in 'The University Regiment'. What battles did you participate in, besides the battle of the beers in the local pub. University Regiments, like school cadets, were always seen as little boys playing at soldiering, and during the Vietnam War a way for rich kids (with uni deferments) to show their "loyalty" and at the same time keep out of harms way.
When I need to know something I should just go to you, being the forums resident expert and know all on everything.