Paul,

With your knowledge of, and being in close touch with the NSW Greens perhaps you could explain

"Policy.
23. Guns in urban areas are to be stored at gun clubs under lock and key, with firing mechanisms kept at designated police stations;"

Just how would this work?
I've searched the Greens' site but can find nothing on any recommended procedures or any costing.

Is Mise, being silly, you know what a gun club is, and you know what a police station is. Now I suggest you re-read the policy a5 or 6 times and see if you can work it out for yourself. I can't hold your hand all the time when it comes to Greens policy.

I must confess I am having a little problem with this statement

This Policy Statement of the Shooters and Fishers Party (S&F), formerly the Australian Shooters Party, shall conform with each Policy contained in the Policy Statement of The Shooters Party. Where any conflict occurs, the Policy of The Shooters Party shall prevail. The Policy Statement of The Shooters Party is attached as Appendix 1.

Looks like the poor old Fishers got the bums rush on that one. Also I couldn't find Appendix 1, in fact I couldn't find any appendices at all. Where is APPENDIX ANYTHING!

Draconian laws are those that deny their target the possibility of offending. People are still getting shot because the current laws don't do this. If the German aggressors of 1914 had been subjected to draconian suppression for decades after 1918 they could never have got back on their feet, rearmed and launched their murderous Drang nach Osten. Humanity gains from draconian laws that protect human rights against those who would suppress them. Living is a human right. Freedom of speech is a human right. Freedom to let off firearms for recreation is not. Importing, owning, possessing and using firearms can be ruthlessly suppressed without infringing in any way on human rights.

Julian,

How about the human right of self defence?

How is that unfortunate, frail 70 year old woman going to defend herself against the 18 year old rapist/murderer?

C'mon Julian, you must have some idea.

Paul,

I can work out that the Greens' proposal 23. is unworkable, stupid and up to scratch with most of their ideas.

One thing does puzzle me, why do the Greens advocate combination locks for country use but key locks for city use; seems a bit inconsistent.

Is Mise, if you want to read a load of convoluted gobbledygook just go to the Shooters and Hooters Party policy site. The load of old cobblers (policy ha ha) they took to the recent NSW State election was a disgrace. According to this collection of selfish nincompoops, what is good for the one percent (them), is good for all. Talk about self interest, this mob thrive on it!

What is your position in the 'Land Rover' (Shooters Party) are you in the front drivers seat at the controls with the crazy 'Two Bobs' or are you riding behind with the likes of Lance Boyle and the rest of the gun happy brigade?

I wont even acknowledge this mobs nonsense by providing a link. Have to find it for yourself.

The gun lobby asks: "How about the human right of self defence? How is that unfortunate, frail 70 year old woman going to defend herself against the 18 year old rapist/murderer?"

Defence against young thugs who victimise frail old women lies in draconic treatment in the courts and in the legislation, not in spreading the power of the gun to every Tom, Dick(head) and Harry. Mandatory minimum prison sentences in harsh prisons for assault - several decades and no parole. If the gunnies really cared about frail old women's rights they'd be hammering the pollies for laws mandating harsh retribution the minds of thugs thinking of bullying the vulnerable. Frail old women also get victimised in America which is so awash with guns that ten thousand Americans are shot dead by other Americans (and not by frail old women) every year. That sort of slaughter is the hand and arm that follows the gun freaks' finger under the door.