Robert LePage,

You only need to use common sense, and ask cui prodest, to see that this theatrically carried out assassination (with the Kremlin acting as an impressive coulisse) could not be something Putin would expect to profit from. He certainly has other, less conspicuous, ways of getting rid of dangerous opponents. With Putin’s approval rating at 86% and Nemtsov’s at 5-8% this was hardly the case.

No question that since the Kiev Maidan coup d’etat the atmosphere in Russia is poisoned. Nationalism - that Putin is riding but might not be able to control - is on the rise out of fear of Russia going the way of Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria or Ukraine, and anything can happen. No need to involve “AngloZionists” or some other conspiracy theory.

Foxy is right, it could have been anybody.
There is chaos in Russia at present.
Robert said:
Against all odds, Putin has so far brought Russia from the brink of
utter poverty, disintegration, and disaster.

Actually Russia is on the brink of economic and or financial collapse.
Their currency has fallen dramatically and their only hope is from gas
sales to China through recently completed gas lines and an oil price recovery.
Europe is diverting its gas & oil purchases as fast as possible.

Russia is in very serious trouble. Unemployment figures do not seem
to be reliable from what I have read.

Oh yes there is, George. You watch too much propaganda (Commie tactic) on the mainstream channels. All our media is controlled and there is no such thing as independent journalism otherwise they're sacked. All is censored.

Robert, I'm with you. The Freemason, Illuminati aka Anglo/ Zionists planning the New World Order is behind everything. Rothchild lizards. These monied terrorists are in control. They have planned just about all the wars and assassinations throughout history. And inventors of all the lies.

"Do we have free press? John Swinton, former Chief of Staff for the New York Times, didn’t think so in 1953. In a toast at the New York Press Club he said: “There is no such thing in America as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions. If I allow them to appear in my paper, before 24 hrs my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy truth – lie outright, pervert, vilify, fawn at the feet of mammon, and sell his country and his race for his daily bread. We are tools and vassals for rich men –behind the scenes….We are intellectual prostitutes.”

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jun/02/mammons-kingdom-essay-britain-now-review-david-marquand-cry-of-despair

Haven't you noticed every aspect of our lives are headed for a Police State/totalitarian communism. The MASTERS OF DECEPTION. Have you not noticed life is getting harder and harder in all directions.

Wake up George. Have you ever tried looking closely at these conspiracy theories?

As you are a Catholic, I recommend this magazine which is not called "Crisis" for nothing.
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2012/the-liberal-arts-dawsons-prerequisite-for-the-reconstruction-of-christendom

And these masters are not viriulently at war with the CC and the Orthodox Churches for nothing. As they have been for centuries past.

Constance,

All I was saying was that one could get to the same conclusion as Robert, including the false flag possibility, without invoking AngloZionists. I think he understood.

As for the rest, you apparently had a very bad experience with Communists. So have I (I escaped them in 1968), so I understand your feelings about them.

Thanks for the links, I never heard about Swinton or Dawson, although the latter seems to be a contemporary - including his views - of Jacques Maritain whose writings I grew up with since there, behind the Iron Curtain, we had no access to more contemporary Catholic literature.

I follow more or less regularly http://www.crisismagazine.com/, as well as http://www.lifesitenes.com and http://www.churchmilitant.tv/platform/?vidID=vort-2015-03-09 run by Michael Voris, (the American bull in the Catholic china shop) and I wrote something about them (not in English). The main difference between their take of Catholicism and mine is that I am an enthusiast of Pope Francis and they are not, at least not of what he has beein doing and saying.

Speaking of conspiracy theories, “where do you hide a leaf?” asks Chesterton’s Father Brown. “In a forest full of leaves.” “And if there si no forest on hand?” “Create one”. So how do you debunk a conspiracy theory coming dangerously close to truth? By creating a number of more absurd variations of the original one so that it will make people reject them all, including the original, dangerous one.

My opinion is that many conspiracy theories are false flag theories.

Dearest Foxy,

It might help to think of Russia as a State Mafia, with senior oligarchs jostling for power under Putin, and with subsidiary Statelets like Chechnya under his hand-picked Mafia boss Kadyrov available to carry out hits on demand.

I suspect that we are a long way from the truth yet (how could it be otherwise in Russia ?) but my best bets are either:

* some of the oligarchs are getting restless under Putin, worried about his aggressions in Ukraine and the rapid decline in the economy,
and general destabilisation as a result of his policies - and restless enough to consider toppling him, so they organise some Chechen crims to knock Nemtsov off and blame it on Putin. A bit too crude ? Yeah, maybe, and there's no real evidence for it yet. But who knows ?

OR

* Putin obviously wanted Nemtsov out of the way - who will rid me of this turbulent priest ? - so had all the security cameras around the Kremlin turned off while organising Kadyrov to send in a hit squad - car with Chechen plates, Chechens arrested not in Chechnya but in Ingushetia.

God knows, there must be so many factions and feuds and pissed-off ethnic groups, especially Moslem ones like Kazakhstan, that anything's possible.

I must watch that last episode from The Sopranos again ......

Love,

Joe

It is interesting reading all the valid points
that everyone has raised.

I must admit that my knowledge of the former
Soviet Union is very limited and probably
dated by what's happening there today. I
don't think that I would be a good judge,
even though I do have opinions - they may
not be relevant though in today's Russian
climate. I respect George's views - as he's
actually lived in the Soviet bloc. I respect
the amount of research that Constance brings
to her posts. I respect Robert's views and those
of Bazz, as well as dear Joe's (Loudmouth).

My views are you might say - "Old fashioned."
based on the belief that communist leaders
believe in the interest, control, and
domination of the state over the individual.
Therefore I feel that somehow or other -
either Putin or someone working for him
would probably have gotten rid of the problem that
Borins Nemtsov presented.

But then, as I stated earlier, what do I really know.