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Will Aus learn anything from Rotherham?

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SteeleRedux

a moral relativist suddenly finding a moral compass. What a surprise!
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 5:38:01 PM
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Foxy,
The big difference in the Rotherham situation is, like the Bankstown rapes, it has been done on a racial basis. The girls were targeted because of their race. All on an epic scale that the police and council ignored. They turned a blind eye to what was happening because they wanted to appease the ethnic community.

I suggest you google Rotherham child sex scandal and read. The stories of the victims are horrorfing. Some victims were 11 and they were groomed to provide 'entertainment' for scores of ethnic men. There are at least 100 babies born from these rapes.

Sure there are instances of child sex abuse in all communities, but not on such a scale and with virtual approval of authorities. The latest report states it is far more widespread than Just Rotherham, rings were operating in other places as well. Victims claim they still see perpetrators driving around with young girls in their cars.

Steele,
Yep still beating the drum, and will continue until the dopey idiots in Canberra completely abandon any semblance of multiculturalism and stop importing those that have shown us they will not integrate. We can do without alien cultures.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 7:54:52 PM
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Foxy,
Rotherham is similar in some ways to other cases but unique because of the number of outsiders to a particular ethnic subculture turning a blind eye to illegal activity for their own reasons.
You can find cases where for example a senior Policeman of the Catholic faith covered up criminal behaviour by priests, it's unusual for non Pakistani, non Muslim Police and public officials to cover for Pakistani Muslim criminals.
You can't even really call Rotherham a cover up, the illegal activity was blatant and overt, complaints about the Pakistani gangs were made and received by the responsible authorities and they simply refused to act.
Minister Eric Pickles report to the house of commons detailed an almost complete breakdown of proper procedure in Rotherham council where a culture of bullying and perverse "political correctness" had demoralised and corrupted the whole system.
http://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/report-of-inspection-of-rotherham-metropolitan-borough-council

"Poor governance is deeply seated throughout the council
There is a pervading culture of bullying, sexism, suppression and misplaced political correctness which has cemented the council’s failures
Both members and officers lack the confidence to tackle difficult issues for fear of being seen as racist or upsetting community cohesion
The council is currently incapable of tackling its weaknesses, without a sustantial intervention
The council lacks political leadership
It is directionless and is not clear what kind of organisation it wants to be, and how it will get there
It is clear that the political leadership of the council is unable to hold officers to account, and there is an inability of all members to properly represent the interests of local people"

Banjo, this is an article from the ABC so they don't mention that the Shepparton and Dandenong "grooming gangs" are made up of Afghan men who arrived as refugees:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-11/criminal-gangs-enticing-children-in-state-care-into-prostitution/5313632

http://pokiepleasures.com.au/afghani-rapes-teenagers-female-judge-barbara-cottrell-gives-him-a-rap-over-the-knuckles-the-age-61/
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 10:03:39 PM
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Dear Banjo,

The statistics of child sexual abuse for Australia
are far higher than in Rotherham. And cover-ups
have also occurred as we well know. In Australia
the sexual abuse has gone on for generations.
And in a report cited earlier the types of child
abuse reported in Australian States and territories
in 2011-12 were 48,420.

I have read
Prof. Alexis Jay's report into how gangs of
mainly Asian men groomed, terrorised and abused 1,400
girls as young as 11 in Rotherham over a 16 year period.

Professor Joy has also warned that paedophiles are
abusing children within an hour of grooming them online.
She spoke of the dangers of "social media" and
"social networking" sites. She warned that these "new and
different means of exploitation online can shift"offline very
fast ...within an hour or so."

The following link explains further:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11160003/Children-are-being-abused-an-hour-after-being-groomed-online-Rotherham-sex-abuse-scandal-expert-warns.html
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 10:15:57 PM
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"gangs of mainly Asian men"

Political correctness throwing a tarpaulin over the real offenders from the Kashmir, Pakistan.

<In the wake of the Rochdale grooming convictions, it's time to stop lumping Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus together as 'Asians', argues Hardeep Singh.

Is it time to stop using the word "Asian"? In recent weeks Britain's Sikh and Hindu communities have complained angrily about the use of the misleading term in reporting of the Rochdale grooming convictions of men of Muslim Pakistani descent...

Obviously Sikhs and Hindus and other "Asian" non-Muslims, including Jains, Zoroastrians, Christians and Buddhists, don’t want to be associated with sexual grooming of vulnerable white girls. The vast majority of Muslims don’t want to either. The girls targeted in Rochdale, Derby and now in Luton are all non-Muslim. This is nothing new for British Hindus and Sikhs, who have complained about targeting of their girls for decades; Indians refer to the practice as "love-jihad".

Judge Gerald Clifton, who sentenced the men in Rochdale, indicated they thought the victims were “worthless” and “beyond any respect”. He asserted that one of the motivations behind this was “they were not part of your community or religion”. This is not the first time that this has been suggested: at a Hindu Forum conference in 2007, the then Metropolitan Police commissioner, Sir Ian Blair, revealed how the police were working to clamp down on “aggressive conversions” of vulnerable girls. The following year, a blog site called "Sikh4aweek" which called on Muslim "soldiers" to "hunt" down Sikh university students during freshers week was forced to close following complaints to the police and Google.

It is for the Muslim community and its leaders to decide what is behind the trend, and what to do about it; but it is time for politicians and the press to bear in mind that in the context of these sex crimes, as with violent extremism, female genital mutilation, forced marriage and honour killings, the vague term "Asian" serves no purpose

The common denominator: targeting of non-Muslim girls>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9314448/Its-time-to-stop-using-the-word-Asians.html
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 12 February 2015 12:50:32 AM
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If the federal government were to learn anything from Rotherham it would be that it isn't only known and named criminal gangs and terrorists who bring toxic values, traditions and behaviour to Australia. There are ethnics who are every bit as likely to present threats to the safety and wellbeing of Australians and are likely to be corrosive to the democratic traditions and freedom we value.

There is no reason why for example, Somali or Kashmiri Muslims, especially without papers and a proved record of good behaviour, should be preferred and allocated priority over the many thousands of better prospects for citizenship and contribution to society (through work skills known to be in short supply, for a start).

The objectives of Australia's migration program need to be restated, direct consultation entered into with the public and a mandate sought for the policy and practices. It would be surprising indeed if voters supported the appeals system and wouldn't prefer the Dept of Immigration to have the final say instead.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 12 February 2015 8:07:32 AM
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