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Should we change the date of Australia Day?
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Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 24 January 2015 9:17:52 AM
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Paul,
<<diseases yada yada yada>> Little doubt each new migration of peoples brought new diseases –include dare I emphasize each successive migration of Aboriginals …and their dingos ...but you Greenies have the advantage in that no records were kept of such things prior to white immigration. <<There never was ONE aboriginal people…Yes so what is the point,>> The point Paul, is that the whole fantasy (much loved by those on the left) that there was this monolithic group of noble savages living in harmony with each other and nature is just a lefty beat-up designed to help them foster the guilt industry. Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 24 January 2015 9:18:13 AM
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Dearest Foxy,
“One” has to wonder why such expressions as “my husband and I”, “shall” and the collective “we” have the Royal Assent? Or is this an adopted style in order to engender an impression of both authority superior education? As for switching ones metaphor from “bending over” (compliance with proscribed PC), and substituting ones own metaphor to “bending over backwards” (as in accommodation within work, family, home and friends), this has not gone unnoticed. One has to assume, does one not, that this might have nicely avoided responding the real intent of ones post to raise once again, some of the PC perspectives one really wishes to use to provoke some and to “dog whistle” the rest. One also has to wonder if the Australian Movie that the Royal “we” “shall” watch on Australia Day might be “Rabbit Proof Fence” or “The Stolen Generations”, just to reinforce ones illusionary perspectives that such events did actually take place. My wife and I have often pondered if the variety of sustainable PC topics might be getting a tad too tired and narrow for one, which might explain the desperation for yet another airing of ones obsessions. Whilst we are acutely aware of the real significance of Australia day to real Australians, who celebrate this anniversary privately and thoughtfully, “we” often muse at the propensity of some to overegg their celebratory intentions in order to convince others of their genuine Australian values. This issue of Australian values is particularly distasteful when one has just launched a thread to question those very values. One wishes one that the day spent with ones family, a BBQ, Bingo and a “spiffing” Australian movie will be rewarding and will also avoid any contact with the “pugnacity and foaming spittle” of the proletariat. Happy Australia Day. Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 24 January 2015 9:18:13 AM
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Spindoc,
Liberal morality, pictured: http://kcsportsnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/dumpster+fire.jpg As I've said often enough, the world of Left vs Right is the world of magic, you need miracles and mysterious magical energies to make all the moving parts work and even then they only run along the horizontal plane, like a bobbin in a loom. The centre rejects magic and belief systems and proposes vertical rather than horizontal, left-right movement. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 24 January 2015 9:33:37 AM
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Dick Smith spouting his usual nonsense:
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-truth-is-january-26-should-be-first-fleet-day-not-australia-day-20150123-12xb0x.html There's nothing "amazing" or "deep" about stone age living and calling it a "culture" is just more relativistic hokum. I wonder if Dick Smith or anyone else can think of a single Aboriginal cultural artifact or practice which could have enhanced the prospects of a society which could safely navigate a fleet of little wooden ships across the globe and start a civilisation from scratch, just with the equipment the carried in their holds? We owe Aborigines nothing, their contribution to the society we have now has been effectively nil, they're our responsibility in the sense that wards of the state are everyone's responsibility but they're not our equals. http://i0.wp.com/therightstuff.biz/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/welcome.png Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 24 January 2015 9:51:26 AM
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One more point.
If the old Australian paradigm is no longer relevant then are we as Whites now absolved of all responsibility for the welfare of Aboriginals? Basically the contrary position boils down to, "We don't want Whites to feel good about their heritage but we don't want them to be able to ignore it either", it's a completely absurd and unworkable ideal. I think it's inevitable that Australia day and Australian history will quickly cease to be relevant to White people but that's not a win for the Anti Whites and it's a big loss for Aborigines. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 24 January 2015 10:05:13 AM
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The smallpox epidemic which depopulated most of southern Australia originated in Indonesia and occurred before White settlement, that's been known for a long time now and was acknowledged in the TV series "First Australians".
The Victorian tribes had endemic non venereal Syphillis and Yaws,the sedentary tribes suffered many of the same gastro intestinal complaints, coughs, colds and ailments as Europeans and the early settlers suffered a worse infant mortality rate than England right up to the early 20th century, they weren't immune to the old world diseases.
Every study I've read on the reasons for the death of Victoria's Aboriginal population talks about despair as the most serious problem, the Aboriginals went into steep decline after the pre contact epidemics and basically stopped having children, the problems brought on by contact with Whites were just the last nail in the coffin, so to speak.
On "Invasion Day", I think it's a distasteful concept for the reason that it places Aboriginals in the position of losers and Whites as winners, it's fine if you're a White Lefty with grandiose fantasies about "liberating" Aboriginals but it doesn't do much to promote ideals of equality