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Would you turn to relgion if you were diagnosed with cancer?

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does the term 'religous right' also indicate the 'irreligous left'? The demonising of those who oppose on tap baby murder is really very dishonest in many ways.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 10 January 2015 2:36:05 PM
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I think it's the way you look at death. Death is inevitable for all. It is irrational not to accept that everyone dies even your self. It's the fear of the unknown. I have accepted the fact that, mentally, I just won't be here anymore. That's it.

I imagine it's like a good nights sleep. You are out like a light, there is nothing to remember while you are asleep, you don't feel anything. It's just that you don't wake up again. So what's there to fear except fear it's self.

The concept of God has been pushed into us from the day of our birth. Weather you accept God later on is another Question. The thought of a God will always be at the back of our mind somewhere because that is the conditioning we have received, regardless of the Denomination.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 10 January 2015 3:02:16 PM
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Dear Foxy,

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10790 is an essay which deals with the separation of religion and state in the USA.

“George Washington was not a Christian. He was, like many men of the Enlightenment, a Deist. Deists believed in God as a Creator who rules the world by rational laws, and that humans are rational beings, capable of guiding their lives by the light of reason. Deists rejected the claims of supernatural revelation and took no share in formal religious practices. Washington attended church with his wife but refused to take communion.”

There has been an attempt by the religious right in the USA to rewrite history and make the founding fathers out to be religious Christians.

“Nature’s God” which deals with the ‘heretical origins of the American Republic’ is a corrective.

From the jacket:

“Derided as “Infidels” and “atheists” in their own time, the radicals who founded America set their sights on a revolution of the mind. Not only the erudite Thomas Jefferson, the wily and elusive Ben Franklin, and the underappreciated Thomas Paine, but also Ethan Allen, the hero of the Green Mountain boys, and Thomas Young, the forgotten founder who kicked off the Boston Tea Party – they all wanted to liberate us not just from one king but from the tyranny of supernatural religion.

The ideas that inspired them were neither British nor Christian, but largely ancient, pagan, and continental; the fecund universe of the Roman philosopher Lucretius; the potent (but not transcendent) natural divinity of the Dutch heretic Benedict de Spinoza. Drawing deeply on the study of European philosophy, Matthew Stuart pursues a genealogy of the philosophical ideas from which America’s revolutionaries drew their inspiration, all scrupulously researched and documented and enlivened with story telling of the highest order.”

General Grant, ancestor of two of my grandchildren, said, “pure morals unfettered by religious sentiments”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_G._Ingersoll tells about a leading Republican.

“... orator of United States during the Golden Age of Freethought, noted for his broad range of culture and his defense of agnosticism. He was nicknamed "The Great Agnostic".”

May the US return to its noble traditions.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 10 January 2015 3:34:06 PM
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runner wrote: "The demonising of those who oppose on tap baby murder is really very dishonest in many ways."

One who will not own up to the lack of basis of his own false statements will speak of the dishonesty of others.

Matthew 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 10 January 2015 4:26:33 PM
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Dear David F.,

Thank You again for the information concerning
the US. It shall be interesting to see what
changes the future holds.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 January 2015 4:58:55 PM
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Dear David F.,

Why does American money (coins and paper currency)
declare, "In God we trust." Where does that come
from and why?
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 January 2015 5:18:16 PM
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