When there are more than enough males to go around and the herds/groups are suffering as a result what would be a humane way to cull?

The trophy bull being past its prime and one season more than likely away from suffering a lingering death resulting from the fights, damage and expulsion that Disney wildlife warriors never get to see.

Paul1405,

I have done my bit and provided a comprehensive report. What about some criticism of its research and conclusions? From its biblioghaphy alone, most (not you, apparently) would think it is very well researched indeed.

But no, all you have is emotional clap-trap and some anecdotal yarn about some young woman you meet. Why is it necessary that your informant/expert be a woman and young? -You are very careful to mention that. But why? It is irrelevant to to the discovery of any facts. Part of the emotional appeal, the political correctness of the Greens? Her outlook would stop crime, you say?! LOL

Here you go,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5f2RMc4e5s

BTW, don't you tell stories about your 'T' and other Islander rellies taking and eating shellfish? Do they throw them live into the coals or break them open to relish very fresh?

IS MISE...

Mate I don't know ? You argue a good case for the 'trophy shooter' to pay thousands of bucks to both the government of the country in which he wishes to hunt, plus more dollars for guides and other dollar eating costs, necessary to get 'up and personal' with 'Leo' or 'Jumbo' as an example ? Because it's a pretty costly pastime to mount, both an organised, and legal hunting safari for big game as you'd know ?

Still, it just doesn't sit well with me, I must be brutally honest with you ? The whole activity seems iniquitous even depraved to me, to take down a majestic giant, in order to mount a set of tusks over your fireplace somewhere in Boston MA. Actually I'm not even sure if ivory isn't a prohibited import into the United States any more ? Anyway, I'm sure our intrepid and audacious Big Game Hunter will mount something over his or her fireplace, even if it's the poor beast's dick or something ?

If it's just a nice photograph or something they want, they can find one of those 'trick' photo studios, where you jump into a 'rented' safari suit, complete with sun 'pith' helmet, stick your head through a hole, and have your face snapped to your heart's content. A lot cheaper too I'd expect ? I dunno IS MISE the whole moral question stinks I believe.

o sung wu,

Each to his own and I am not interested in taxidermy either. I am the original minimalist and don't like stuff hanging around that I have to clean. Never went for mounted cane toads either.

However, when one considers that many different people collect all sorts of mementos to display and remember their experiences there is not such a difference at all. When more bureaucrats were stationed in PNG for instance it was de rigeur that they brought back all sorts of feather and skin adorned keepsakes to remind them of their unique PNG experience as they went about the day back home.

Is collecting Italian handbags and shoes a morally better pastime? Why?

What about indigenous traditional dress (say) Islander or Maori? Is what they have collected and display, obscene?

Of course you're quite right ONTHEBEACH, to each his own. Interestingly, many of my mates can't reconcile the fact that while I enjoy the engineering side of quality F/A's, I simple don't like hunting and for that they reckon I'm nuts ! There may be quite a good deal of truth in that perhaps ? But as you say, we all have our favourite pastimes and activities that we all like to pursue ?

I've been a dedicated numismatists, for nigh on sixty years. Starting off as a teenager, gravitating to a serious collector in my retirement. I move from coins, to Banknotes, to tokens, back to coins again, whatever I can afford, and whatever that grabs my interest, at the time.

I suppose also, it's my prolonged curiosity in history that drives me in that direction at least. And numismatics does tend to inspire one's spirit of inquiry as well as a profound inquisitiveness, certainly in most areas of genuine historical pursuit. One only needs to closely examine a coin/token/medallion and a lot of interesting history does emerge from them, if one's patient and cares to carefully research it's past ?

I know what you're going to say my friend, it's a hobby reserved only for us old goats ?:) LOL ! I suppose if 'push comes to shove', and as a bona fide 'old goat', I'd probably have to agree with you there !

Speak again soon ol' man, 'til than, take it easy OK ?

Beach a wonderful 72 page report, simply marvelous, in fact its exemplary, I could go on and on about it. However I have my own one line report, here it is.

"I find the act of pointing a high powered rifle with a can not miss telescopic sight at a majestic animal such as a lion, which has every right to exist on this planet....BARBARIC! End of report.

"emotional clap-trap" no should we all be as hard and uncaring as a block of concrete? I;m glad I posses some emotional clap-trap.

and my friend is more concerned about chickens than rhinoceros, or maybe she is concerned about both.
read what I said the info on African safari I got from my 32 year old son.