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An era of deception, corruption and pure evil ?

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http://www.infowars.com/spending-bill-grants-half-billion-to-isis-linked-syrian-rebels/

...And most the people here treat Arjay and myself like were nuts.
Yet we have countless documents and articles that support a different view. When are you people going to wake up and realise that your all being sold into lies and that despite the way you feel about us, its you that are being mislead?

Treat us like idiots if you want.
But we only have good intentions, we open ourselves up to others scrutiny trying to give you all a different point of view.

Its easy to follow the crowd, but it takes a lot more courage to put yourself out there against accepted views only to face ridicule and disbelief.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 13 December 2014 11:15:52 AM
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What about molten metal in the rubble of Building 7?
I suppose that was because of burning fuel as well?
http://wtc7.net/articles/stevenjones_b7.html
http://youtu.be/yea2T3Haux0
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 13 December 2014 2:50:00 PM
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Molten metal found in WTC rubble is to be expected, melted aluminium for example.

Spilled jet fuel combined with burning plastic fed with oxygen from any draught forming a blowtorch effect would surely make enough heat to at least crack concrete surrounding the steel structure. Exposed steel could surely soften and bend under weight of upper floors. Perhaps some WTC steel could also melt.

A propane blowtorch can produce 3,623 F.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propane_torch

Steel melts at 2,600 - 2,800 F.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html

Propane is a component of petroleum, so is plastic.

Maybe gas from burning plastic coupled with refined kerosene jet fuel could form propane or something like it.

Who on OLO has experience with these components and temperatures?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiabatic_flame_temperature

Has anyone seen any comment about steel melting due to heat from plastic burning in the WTC on 9/11
Posted by JF Aus, Saturday, 13 December 2014 7:01:17 PM
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Its a big ask to suggest burning plastic and fuel will melt steel.
But granted - I'm no expert.
Even so it can't apply to the tower that wasn't hit.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 14 December 2014 10:08:09 PM
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The internet contains very many well written and researched articles and essays by men who have held top positions in the USA government, academia, the military and commerce, who are attempting to warn the doubting public of what has been planned for them by the so-called neo-cons who run the White House. For years those people have conspired to create confusion, to destabilize governments, to make excuses to invade, to interfere with the financial sector, manipulate the price of precious metals and more, so as to increase their wealth and power. And their conspiracies have been successful. 5% of the population own 85% of the wealth...or some similarly astonishing figure, and in all their vassal states such as Australia, similar changes are occurring. How can they do this? By labeling anyone and everyone who exposes their machinations as a "Conspiracy Theorist". And most of the respondents on this thread have fallen for the lie. They aren't theories, they're facts, and the ultimate truth will almost certainly be far worse than 'nice' people can imagine.
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 15 December 2014 7:00:47 AM
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Armchair Critic,
The third building was demolished by a demolition expert because during the initial search and rescue, that was found to be unsafe following the impact of one or both of the two WTC towers hitting the ground.
Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 15 December 2014 6:52:23 PM
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