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Contempt of court

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Unfortunately, Pesky, you have misinterpreted my, unfortunately. deliberately, I imagine.

Like it or not, Pomp & Ceremony play a huge part in our lives. Weather it's the way we attend our various, Churches, be they Religious or Sporting. Imagine the chaos if the Horse didn't have to wait for the Gates to open,trying to get on the train before the doors open, standing for a pregnant lady on a bus or standing for the "Beak" when he enters the room.

I suspect that that is all too much for you, being devoid of all manners & etiquette, to the point of being a boring pesky little boy.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 1 December 2014 9:31:05 PM
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I do not find religion identified by skin colour or race which seems to occupy the reasoning of some here. Philosophy or religion is of the mind and persons can change their mind, skin colour or genetic race cannot be changed, [unless you are Michael Jackson].

Persons who disrespect our laws should loose their citizenship and rights as citizens. That is why we incarcerate criminals.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 1 December 2014 9:36:21 PM
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Dear Josepus,

<<Persons who disrespect our laws should loose their citizenship and rights as citizens. That is why we incarcerate criminals.>>

On becoming an Australian citizen, I agreed to observe the Australian laws - not to respect them.

Human laws are based on fear - God's laws are based on love, so only God's laws are to be respected.

You only mentioned criminals, who are below the law, but not a word about those who are above the law! This cultural obsession with secular law is exactly why saints, prophets and sages are not born in Australia. If they were, then they would be subjected to all manner of silly fear-based laws which lost the big picture because they only had criminals in mind, then they would be prosecuted and jailed on the technicalities of failing to comply with the laws of fear.

Hence, the saints are on strike and Australia has become a spiritual desert. Australia's so-called "religious" leaders, those who are supposed to lead us towards God, are instead corrupt and all rub shoulders with the regime, attending high-level functions and becoming the politicians' yes-men in order to obtain financial benefits for their organisations. Had Jesus been here, he would kick the hell out of those fakes and turn the tables over them, but then he would end up treated by the regime in a worse manner than he faced in the first century. Crosses are no longer politically-correct, but they would be replaced by psychiatric drugs and electric shocks.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 1 December 2014 10:55:55 PM
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Paul,

"Sorry Is Mise Boyle was busted, what more can I say."

Well you could admit that he was right when he accused the Green MPs of lying about him.
The lies are in the public record as is the cowardly hiding behind Parliamentary Privilege.

Boyle lost his job because his job was abolished.
By 'busted' do you mean that he was sacked for some offence or is your statement just a bit more typical Greens'innuendo?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 1 December 2014 11:02:21 PM
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Pesky Boy,

"1) The soldier is required to salute the officer FIRST, as a sign that he bows to the officer's superior status...."

The soldier's salute is to shew respect to the Queen's Commission which the officer holds, the officer's salute in return is to acknowledge the compliment.

"2) If the Colonel saluted the Private, without first being acknowledged by the private with a salute (I suspect you misinterpreted the exchange, or just made it up to make a point here), then the Colonel was in clear breach of military regulations .... "

Your understanding of things military obviously springs from a deep well of ignorance. (Wikipedia is your friend; seek guidance).

The Colonel on that parade was Colonel V.E.Dowdy C.O. of the 1st Recruit Training Battalion (1RTB), Kapooka.
It was the first Battalion parade of the first intake of 1953 and there were a lot of WWII men who'd joined up again.
Jayb is right, the private that the Colonel saluted did hold the Victoria Cross, and the Colonel invited him to accompany him for the remainder of the inspection. The salute took place two ranks to my left front so I observed it clearly. We never saw the private again; one assumes that he was excused further basic training!!

Colonel Dowdy was later awarded an OBE and on retirement became Australia's first modern married priest of the Roman Rite and later made a bit more history by officiating at his daughter's wedding and in due course christened his first grandchild.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 1 December 2014 11:57:39 PM
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Is Mise,
1) You are correct, and it is also correct that the salute from a private to an officer is an acknowledgement that the officer is of a higher rank. Any private is under the subjugation of any officer, the private MUST obey the orders of the officer. Without this pecking order and subjugation, no military could possibly operate effectively. A soldier is under military direction and obligation, under certain specific circumstances, to first salute an officer (subjugation), the officer then returns the salute (acknowledgement). In the military, an officer and a private are NOT equal.
2)If Colonel Dowdy saluted that private first, then he was in breach of military regulations. Under the circumstances, a tiny, tiny, tiny breach, but a breach nonetheless, and a breach that should be totally ignored. I suspect it was.

The fact is that a soldier saluting an officer is what you say it is, and it is what I say it is. It's ALL of those things. Now do you understand? Hope so.
Posted by Pesky Boy, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 1:48:14 AM
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