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Contempt of court

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Paul1405, the gist of the story: two men have refused to stand for a District Court judge, with one claiming they are not “at the behest of any authority other than Islam”. They are the one's bringing the 'Muslim' into the story, not the Telegraph.

The good news is the two, who are in court for aggravated break and enter, were refused bail and will stand trial in September 2014.

I'm sure anyone else of any religion would find themselves in the same situation if they behaved that way.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Saturday, 29 November 2014 11:37:45 AM
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The radical Muslim cleric Ben Brika was asked in an
interview on the "7.30 Report,"

"... don't you think Australian Muslims - Muslims living
in Australia - also have a responsibility to adhere to
Australian law?"

To which he answered -

"This is a big problem. There are two laws - there
ia an Australian law and there is an Islamic law."

As Peter Costello pointed out in his book,
"The Costello Memoirs," :

"No. this is not a big problem. There is one law we are
all expected to abide by. It is the law enacted by the
Parliament under the Australian Constitution. If someone
cannot accept that they they do not accept the fundamentals
of what Australia is and what it stands for. Our state is a
secular State. As such it can protect the freedom of all
religions for worship. Religion instructs its adherents
on faith, morals, and conscience. But there is not a
separate stream of law derived from religious sources that
competes with or supplants Australia law in governing our
civil society. The source of our law is the democratically
elected legislature."

"There are countries that apply religious or sharia law -
Saudi Arabia and Iran come to mind. If any person wants to
live under sharia law there are countries where they might
feel at ease. But not Australia."

Religious laws have no legal status in Australia.
And that should be made clear to everyone wanting to
settle in this country.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 29 November 2014 5:48:41 PM
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Foxy,
I agree with all Peter Costello said.

The problem we have is that our politicians, courts and the Judicary do not enforce our laws properly and adequate penalties are not imposed. Criminals are let off with only a slap on the wrist.

I also agree with CH, it begins with the training of kids to accept there are rights and wrongs. Saying please and thank you and other courtasys is the place to start. CH says driving whilst disqualified should be contempt of court and I agree.

All migrants are informed of our laws and social standards before they receive a visa to come here. We do not enforce the laws and many think they can follow alien cultural ways without penalty. With the introduction of multiculturalism, we wrongly indicated that migrants could continue their old ways and we would adapt to their cultures.

The criminals in my first post are born Aussie citizens and still have no respect for us or our society.

These matters need addressing.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 29 November 2014 6:51:38 PM
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Great post Foxy.

The 7:30 Report is broadcast on the ABC so it can't be just another right wing beat up. Okay, Peter Costello was in the Howard government but he does make a valid point.

What do you think Poirot and P-1405?
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Saturday, 29 November 2014 7:45:45 PM
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Foxy,

That's a broad statement, "Religious laws have no legal status in Australia."

Ten Commandments?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 29 November 2014 8:47:10 PM
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Contempt of court means interfering with the administration of justice, it doesn't mean acting disrespectfully.

The court has the power to punish them if it wants, and the reason it didn't, is obviously because they weren't interfering with the administration of justice by not standing.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 29 November 2014 10:25:12 PM
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