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Posted by Jogoma, Monday, 24 November 2014 3:39:28 AM
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It's clear now that Ebola is an escape from USA Bio warfare labs.
see: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40012.htm and http://truth11.com/2014/10/26/experts-have-brought-to-the-publics-attention-that-ebola-is-a-genetically-modified-organism-developed-in-us-biowarfare-laboratories-in-africa/ and loads of other trustworthy sites. Shouldn't the criminals who caused this mess pay? Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 24 November 2014 9:31:42 AM
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Don't be suckered by conspiracy theories.
It's bats. Not the conspiracy theory (though that too)! Bats are behind many of these serious viruses. Why and how? See www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao0dqJvH4a0. If that won't work google video: Why do Bats Transmit so many Diseases like Ebola? There's absolutely no need to imagine secret labs run by Americans (why not Russians or Chinese?) Humans across the tropics (including Australia) have managed to bring this on by expanding into bat habitat, without any need for secret labs. It's pointless analysing the conspiracy videos and websites in detail, since those who are conned by them are not going to listen. But it's easy: at one point it is said 'shock horror how did ebola show up 3500km away?'. Aeroplane with passenger not yet aware of infection? Not to mention that bats fly, the bat populations are spread across tropical Africa, and the virus is probably endemic across the range. Posted by Cossomby, Monday, 24 November 2014 1:25:40 PM
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Prof Francis Boyle is an international Prof of Law who wrote the laws that prohibit germ warfare in the USA. They simply took their labs to Africa and experimented there.
Prof Boyle says they have weaponised Ebola crossing it with the common cold so now it is airborne. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BPpag5ik5M Posted by Arjay, Monday, 24 November 2014 4:29:52 PM
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1. Boyle is a lawyer not a biologist.
2. Crossing ebola with the common cold? Very different viruses. This claim alone demonstrates the nonsense of the conspiracy theory. 3. Why would you 'weaponise' a virus like ebola which is not easy to transmit between people (see 2)? Why not just take an already easily transmissable virus like the flu and make a more virulent strain? 4. But, it's foolish to 'weaponise' a virus to which there is no cure (and there are no cures to virus diseases). You die along with your enemies. Weapons are only useful if you can control them. It's a conspiracy theory, no matter how many old guys with law degrees they drag out and how many videos there are on You-tube. For more American madness, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goat Posted by Cossomby, Monday, 24 November 2014 4:54:09 PM
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Cossomby,Prof Boyle said he went to Harvard with some of these criminals and their intent is to reduce the world's population by 90%.
You don't need a degree in micro biology to know criminal intent. The ex Secretary of the UN Maurice Strong ,Bill Gates ,Henry Kissenger, Rothschilds, Rockerfellers are right into eugenics. The billionaire club see the planet as being their sole possession to do as they please and you via their debt money creation system are their slaves. With computers and robotics humans have become redundant. They now refer to us as, "the useless eaters. Posted by Arjay, Monday, 24 November 2014 6:23:09 PM
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Man-oh-man if the world is half as evil as some of the posters on OLO believe, I really wonder what stops them from just topping themselves and be done with it.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Monday, 24 November 2014 6:49:41 PM
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Con hippie. This is no longer in the realm of theory but conspiracy fact. A business associate who knows nothing of these criminals told me his wife contracted Lymes Disease in Sydney and had to send his wife to Germany for a cure. The Doctors there said this was a weaponised form of Lymes that had escaped from a laboratory. Similar stories have now surfaced on MSM.
Time to awaken since the extremely rich on this planet want a lot of us dead. Posted by Arjay, Monday, 24 November 2014 7:42:41 PM
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http://drrimatruthreports.com/general-bert-world-war-iii-has-begun/ Major General Albert Stubblebine was in charge of all army intelligence in the early 1980's.There are many ex-CIA and intelligence like Edward Snowden who have similar views.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 24 November 2014 7:55:16 PM
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Cossomby, People who tell the truth about the machinations of the world's 'rulers' are always villified; That is why all Western news media pump out only the stories the 'big men' permit. We are all victims of propaganda. It's why they don't even bother to refute the research of people like Snowden and Boyle, knowing most people will believe what they want to believe, despite the facts.
Francis A. Boyle is a leading American professor, practitioner and advocate of international law. He was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. He served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia - Herzegovina at the World Court. Professor Boyle teaches international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University. He is also the author of "Biowarfare and Terrorism". The book outlines how and why the United States government initiated, sustained and then dramatically expanded an illegal biological arms buildup. Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 24 November 2014 8:40:18 PM
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The theory:
1. A billionaire club runs the world with people as slaves via their debt money creation scheme. 2. They plan to reduce the world population by 90%, possibly by weaponised ebola or such-like. 3. Computers and robotics will replace the redundant 90% humans. Let's look at the logic of this. Current world population is about 7.3 billion. Ten percent of this is about 730 million. To start with, let's assume the reduction is pro rate: so China have 140 million, India 130 million, USA 32 million, Indonesia 25, Russia 14, Nigeria (the largest African country) 18, Germany 8, UK 6, Australia 2.3, NZ 450,000. The world population would be roughly what it was in 1750. Commercial air travel would be unviable, certainly to Australia and NZ. For Australia, mining would be cease because China would not need to manufacture so much because there would be no market for their goods. There would be no overseas market for our agricultural goods (or wool - that market expanded in the 1800s because British,and world population shot up with the industrial revolution.) Overall capitalism would collapse. Even if robots could replace the 90% humans, what would they do? Make products to sell? To whom? Robots don't consume - food, food appliances, restaurant meals, cars, music, art, movies, TVs, mobile phones etc. So, the billionaires wouldn't be billionaires any more. The lucrative businesses they built by selling us lots of stuff, and encouraging us to go into debt, would disappear or be significantly downsized. This is why the conspiracy theory is nonsense. Those powerful billionaires aren't about to commit power and financial suicide Posted by Cossomby, Monday, 24 November 2014 10:33:16 PM
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Part 2.
My previous analysis just dropped the world population by 90% pro rata, and assumed no other changes but less people. Now let's examine a 90% drop due to a world pandemic such as a 'weaponised' ebola. Pandemics work fast - let's assume a 12 month time frame. So, at the end of 12 months, there is 10% population left - about 720 million people. But there are also about 6-4 billion dead bodies. These are mainly cluttering up the cities, unburied (the remaining 10% have no chance of solving that, even if they haven't fled the contagion.) As a result the cities have collapsed - no power, water, communication, hospitals, school. trains, planes, roads cluttered with abandoned cars, so, no food reaching the population centres (another reason why the 10% surviving will have left). The billionaires may have bunkered down in safe-houses, but how are they going to get their robot work force into action, even just to clean up the mess? Would it make much difference if the pandemic took 24 months, or 5 years to cut the numbers to 10%? The end result would be the same, but the survivors would have more time to organise. What if the population drop was not pro rata? Perhaps the virus took out all the adults leaving under 15s? How would that play out? Or, all the kids were wiped out, leaving the 10% all over 50? Either way would have significant impact on the future. Either way the billionaires would lose their power and money. What if the result was not pro rata across the world? To get to 10% we'd need to lose all population in Africa, China, India, and still a couple of billion more. The conspiracy theory might allow saving everyone in the USA and Europe, but what then? The billionaires are rich because of global trade, and that would decimated. Over the subsequent 100 years, the empty countries would be recolonised, but that wouldn't do the gang of billionaires any good. They'd be long gone, along with their power, money, luxuries etc. Posted by Cossomby, Monday, 24 November 2014 11:10:15 PM
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Part 3.
Really, I didn't need to do that analysis. There's a much simpler explanation of why this conspiracy theory is nonsense - the psychology of power. People become rich and powerful billionaires by expanding their businesses and building empires. We may be their slaves but they need us to buy stuff and borrow money to keep them rich. Downsize by 90%? No way! PS I do think the world population needs to come down, but slowly, not catastrophically, and not to 10%. Posted by Cossomby, Monday, 24 November 2014 11:16:27 PM
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Cossomby agreed there is no need for such drastic measures but our elites don't see it that way and they are impatient for power.
The advances in genetic manipulation and robotics is quite unnerving. Like Hitler they want to breed the super race and have advanced robots to serve them. They are also on the brink of doubling life spans, so we cannot have the masses getting access to these new advances. This conflict between Russia + China and the West is all about money power. Russia kicked out our central bankers and nationalised resources. China has many Govt banks and is also to a large degree independent from our banks, but oligarchs tend to think the same in regards to their populations and view them as being expendable. Most wars are bankers wars whereby they finance both sides of a conflict. So it does not matter who wins. The Vietnam war was all about selling chemicals and bombs. They dropped more bombs on Vietnam than the entire WW2. I was watching Stephen Hawking being interviewed recently and he gave a hypothesis of man asking an advanced self evolving computer if god exists. Computer answer," He does now." Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 5:21:56 AM
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Thanks Cossomby,
I was going to quote Arjay's "Time to awaken since the extremely rich on this planet want a lot of us dead." And then ask Why? But I see you've covered all that nicely. And the only reply Arjay has to your debunking is to say: "Cossomby agreed there is no need for such drastic measures but our elites don't see it that way and they are impatient for power." They "already" have power, with the set up exactly as it is. Why in the world would these people want such a drastically reduced population when Capitalism is thriving so well with the amount we've got and the technology we've got, and the wars we've got, etc. Take 90% of the population away - and you ain't got it anymore. And all so well summed up in Cossomby's simple sentence: "Either way the billionaires would lose their power and money." Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 6:47:17 AM
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This thread has been sidetracked, Jogoma wants to make a documentary about Ebola. Arjay and I want to make certain the facts about USA Bio-warfare are included in this documentary, not some whitewash.
Whatever the intentions of the handful of people who own 95% the planet's wealth and media, they are not making the planet a safer, cleaner, healthier or more pleasant place to live. The current population and way of life of humans is unsustainable. It must be an attractive idea, being one of the few million who inhabit a clean and fresh planet run by slaves and robots. There are many Sci-fi stories about such Arcadian dreams. Dont underestimate the stupidity of people who have never learned the lesson that more than enough is too much. Posted by ybgirp, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 7:08:09 AM
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Slam dunk Cossomby, you have absolutely nailed it! Good logic, good analysis, 100% spot on, well done.
Arjay the conspiracy theories you are spruiking simply to not make sense as there is no win for the Rich you are accusing of plotting to kill us off. Adding to all the reasons Cossomby spelled out for you, if your conspiracy is happening, the Billionaires legions are doing a very bad job of achieving their objective. Let's say you are right about Ebola and Lymes being weaponised germ warfare (that part is not totally out of the question); let's also add every known form of cancer, diabetes, and heart disease as also being manufactured weapons. The sum total of all these 'weapons' still isn't putting a dent in population growth and has no hope of reducing the population by 90%. One of the conditions of the world we live it is the Law: >for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction<. Let's propose a new conspiracy theory that there is a whole secret society of do gooders funding the survival of mankind? After all we can see White Knights all over the world trying to save people from these diseases with some success. Is this good conspiracy remotely possible? No more so than your evil billionaire theory. I believe out-of-control population growth is the biggest problem facing the future, maybe a 100 times more threatening than climate change. Some of the Third World populations are breeding like rabbits. In my recollection China is the only country that aimed to openly control its population growth and China's efforts were met with relief from the West and at the same time condemnation for breeching people's basic human rights. If Billionaires are conspiring to reduce the population wouldn't it be easier to just secretly sterilize the 'undesirables', or kill them off by poisoning the water they drink? Sorry Arjay, but you need to find a new and hopefully more positive campaign to champion. You'll find the world is a much nicer place if you do. Posted by ConservativeHippie, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 7:25:37 AM
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ybgirp,
"This thread has been sidetracked, Jogoma wants to make a documentary about Ebola. Arjay and I want to make certain the facts about USA Bio-warfare are included in this documentary, not some whitewash." You posted: "It's clear now that Ebola is an escape from USA Bio warfare labs. see: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40012.htm and http://truth11.com/2014/10/26/experts-have-brought-to-the-publics-attention-that-ebola-is-a-genetically-modified-organism-developed-in-us-biowarfare-laboratories-in-africa/ and loads of other trustworthy sites. Shouldn't the criminals who caused this mess pay?" Why do you say it's been sidetracked when you're the one who sidetracked it? Most of the comments since have pertained to your post above. The powerful elite who enjoy the spoils of this system are only powerful because of this system - why would they seek to eradicate the very source of their power - with a bloody virus which doesn't discriminate between billionaires and ordinary plebs? Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 7:26:24 AM
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Poirot, suggesting a direction for the proposed documentary is not side-tracking.
you write:" The powerful elite who enjoy the spoils of this system are only powerful because of this system - why would they seek to eradicate the very source of their power - with a bloody virus which doesn't discriminate between billionaires and ordinary plebs?" The answer lies in their bio-warfare laboratories, where they also manufacture vaccines to protect those they wish to protect. Remember, that conspiracies work both ways. The wealthy power-brokers are conspiring to maintain their position. Were you one of those sneering at conspiracy theories when the idea that we were all being spied on was mooted? Probably, yet Assange, Snow-den and others have proved that to be true. it is the same with Ebola. Read this: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40311.htm The second part is the relevant piece. Yes, it sounds bizarre, but the USA has a documented history of trialling diseases on third world people, their own prisoners and others. Only fools think their leaders are working for the common good, they aren't and never have been. Posted by ybgirp, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 9:46:18 AM
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What's really interesting is the proliferation of these conspiracy theories on the internet, with 'insider' stories alleged to be from CIA and military sources (Major General Albert Stubblebine? - 1980s?)
On the basis of these, Arjay and ybgirp are clearly deeply suspicious of the US government, the UN, and the gang of billionaires, and would presumably not believe a thing they said. Yet Arjay and ybgirp credit anything they read on the conspiracy websites? Why are they not equally suspicious of these sources? Here's another conspiracy theory: these websites are part of a deep plot by the Russians/Chinese/Islamists to undermine confidence in western civilisation. We know the Russians and Chinese governments have very smart hackers - quite capable of faking those videos of ex-CIA / military men. Or maybe those guys were long-term KGB sleepers all the time? This is just as credible as the theories proposed by the websites (actually, now I write it down, perhaps even more credible). The response will be: what about Snowdon and Assange? The difference is that there is hard proof for their revelations. Governments/google etc have admitted and even advertised what they are doing or proposing. Though it's one thing to have the ability to spy on the billions of email message and quite another to have the resources, manpower etc to read every single one and actually follow up suspicions - I think part of the PR message is to scare people. The other thing I accept is the past testing of vaccines etc on prison inmates, soldiers etc. (the Australian Army did this in New Guinea in WW2). There are no doubt unethical practices still going on around the world. But the wild extrapolations to vast conspiracies by the UN, WHO or the billionaires are just that - wild extrapolations. The history of pandemics and the reasons for the rise of new or return of old problems is well studied and understood so I'd suggest some courses in in history, biology and medicine as inoculation against the websiteconspiracy virus. Posted by Cossomby, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:56:44 AM
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ybgirp,
"Poirot, suggesting a direction for the proposed documentary is not side-tracking...." Okay...and then addressing the substance of the "suggested direction" is not side-tracking either, I presume? Did ya ever stop to think that developing a weapon - and then supposing that you possess the antidote, might be a tad dumb? Did ya ever stop to think how rapidly viruses mutate? They're noted for it. Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 11:59:47 AM
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Poirot: "Okay...and then addressing the substance of the "suggested direction" is not side-tracking either, I presume?"
Yeah, ya got me there. [Argh!, you've mutated my English usage, I've never written ya for you before - or is it I who have mutated?] I didn't quite get your last point, but I still think, rapidly mutating viruses notwithstanding, that the idiots who have taken over this planet are capable of this and much worse. They don't think like ya and me. As W. Churchill replied when asked if he felt anything after ordering the poison gassing of thousands of Kurds to see how effective it was [BP Oil was a side benefit] "No, they're just pawns in the great game." Posted by ybgirp, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 12:29:31 PM
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ybgirp,
I think you and I are on the same page concerning most things surrounding the status quo. The thing I don't buy is the suggestion that the people who are benefitting mostly from "the status quo" would seek to destroy the system - by exterminating the human resources which provide the foundation of their wealth? (I occasionally employ "ya" for "you" - and "yer" for "your"...I have no idea why:) Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 12:39:05 PM
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The thing I don't buy is the suggestion that the people who are benefitting mostly from "the status quo" would seek to destroy the system - by exterminating the human resources which provide the foundation of their wealth?
Mmm...does seem odd, but we mustn't think they're stupid just because they aren't as nice as us. They realise that 7plus billion humans is unsustainable and will result in more wars than they can handle; they're well aware that climate change will spoil their paradisiacal futures, and what better way to stop that pesky CO2 than by eliminating the billions who don't buy their stuff and who are going to be a problem when their land and water are hijacked and who can be replaced by robots. Once you own everything, you only need enough slaves and servants to keep you in luxury. Their accumulation of wealth phase is over; Now it's time to balance species numbers and then they'll sit back and enjoy the fruits of their rapacity. I think that'll be the subject of my next novel. Posted by ybgirp, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 2:39:00 PM
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>> Once you own everything, you only need enough slaves and servants to keep you in luxury. Their accumulation of wealth phase is over; Now it's time to balance species numbers and then they'll sit back and enjoy the fruits of their rapacity. <<
I hope 'they' are at least into saving whales, tigers, elephants, rhinos and koalas. At as Randy Newman said in his song Political Science "we'll save Australia, don't want to hurt no kangaroos." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du3WhHrrNgs Posted by ConservativeHippie, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 5:21:46 PM
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