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We can stop FGM in Australia.

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Foxy,
While it would be good to 'fix the world' we need to fix what we can in Aus.

Migrants are informed about our laws and society before they obtain a visa to come here. They understand that certain things are illegal but at present they know that FGM can be practiced if they keep it quiet.

We have quietly turned a blind eye for too long and now we have to make it clear that FGM will not be tolerated and there will be severe penalties for those carrying it out.

The parents of any girl/woman born here that has been a victim of FGM should be prosecuted. Her parents will be found out when they become grandparents, if not before. It is recorded on medical records if a mother to be has had FGM. That is, or should be, mandatory reporting. It has to be treated the same as any other form of serious child abuse, even 10 or 20 years after the event.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 10 October 2014 5:58:41 PM
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Dear Banjo,

Of course we should monitor and keep an eye on those
who break our laws - and punish them as
the courts find appropriate. However, looking at our own
attitudes wouldn't hurt either. I'm not too concerned
about the future of this country. As history has shown
us things do change with time and assimilation.
Especially for the younger generations.

International research has shown that some measure of
assimilation is inevitable for ethnic communities.
Even seemingly airtight and isolated colonies, such as
the Amish or Hasidic Jews, cannot totally escape a
slight touch of assimilation. Furthermore, assimilation
is a two-way process.

As an immigrant absorbs the culture of his host country,
he is also giving off and surrendering some of his own
imported heritage. As a result, a Muslim living in
Australia for a long time is likely to gradually create
a new identity, although he may not be aware of it.
What the former immigrant still believes to be his Muslim
identity may well be regarde as totally Australian by
contemporary residents of his home country.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 October 2014 9:41:41 AM
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Foxy,

No Muslims can be Australians until they reject many of the teachings of Muhammad and they cannot do that without rejecting the Koran, the handed down sacred word of Allah.

Go figger.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 11 October 2014 10:57:19 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

Just like Christians who don't always follow
the Bible to the letter. I know of quite a few
Muslims who do the same with the Koran.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 October 2014 11:00:08 AM
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The problem is that where the imported culture is diametrically opposed to the host country's and the migrants are brought in in numbers and particularly where they group together, there is a stronger likelihood that they will not only preserve the toxic elements of their imported culture but it will become stronger.

There are many examples of that process around the world and in Australia. A couple of examples could be taken from migrants coming from the Mediterranean, where there can be a continuation of kidnap brides and honour killings, despite those practices later becoming illegal and unusual in their originating countries.

The multicultural political correctness that enabled the importation of a highly toxic political system to the UK from Pakistan saw the Labour Party implicated in the Rotherham child sex trafficking. The corruption is systemic, resilient and claimed to be continuing. Few offenders have appeared before the courts.

The question begging to be answered is what could possibly cause the government of a western democracy to deliberately bring in migrants from an area where the culture is completely opposed to the host country's?

Blaming the host country for the importation and continuation of toxic practices, ritual slaughter is another easy example, is completely unreasonable. It is their choice. Unfortunately, political parties and therefore governments can be blackmailed by ethnic lobbyists and their apologists into conceding to their demands.

Again, the illegal underground, then later approved ritual animal slaughter conducted by Muslims and Jews is a good example, and it is only farmers who remain resolutely opposed to the practice. One or two percent of the vote in a swinging seat says they can have what they want if they vote Labor.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 11 October 2014 11:09:18 AM
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Australia is very short of skilled trades. In developed countries with similar democratic and legal traditions there are many skilled tradesmen who cannot find work and who, along with their families, would very much like to leave behind the messes their 'Progressive' politicians have wrought.

Why would Australia be giving preference to unskilled migrants who are opposed to its legal traditions and democracy and want to import their own corrupt and Middle Ages cultural imperatives instead?

Demographers predict that the US is only a few decades away from the present majority population (and culture) becoming the 'minority majority' as Hispanic and other migrants with their large families are replacing them. The minority majority effect is already apparent in annual births.

Do the responsible administrations in the US have the blessing of the electorate for that social experiment? Have the politicians even bothered to enquire of the public if that is what they want? Why not? Is it only serving the insatiable growthism of big business?

What about Australia? Will the electorate ever be permitted to vote on the 'diversity-we-have-to-have'? The public is due a better response than the usual, 'Never you mind'.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 11 October 2014 12:02:49 PM
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