Is Mise "Why would the Protestants in the IRA want to kill Protestants?"

Is Mise, the IRA predominantly consisted of Catholics, so what is your silly point about?
Shouldn't you read up on Irish history before embarrassing yourself?

My point was that one does not have to be a radical Muslim to be very violent.
The Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland have been bombing each other for years until very recently.
Humans are violent, not religions...

Is Mise, of course the words were written by John. Every single word in the Bible, both Old and New Testament, were written by MEN. Duh ! ! ! !

Christianity doesn't say that because Jesus Himself didn't physically write the actual words it therefore follows that Jesus didn't speak those words. No sireeee, Christianity says that the words of God in the Bible are the words of God, even though they are physically written by men. You can't comprehend that Is Mise? The Bible, both Old and New Testaments, and Qur'an, are all based on ancient superstition.

Dear Hippie,

My comment to you was of a general nature, not particularly about Islam.

Obviously, those who are violent and dangerous need to be treated accordingly, including those who call themselves "Muslims".

That has nothing to do with their willingness to assimilate and progress or otherwise, but with the fact that they are violent and dangerous.

If making Muslims assimilate and progress is the only way to make them stop their violence, then so be it, but perhaps there are other ways too.

Unlike the Muslims in question, when someone who isn't violent or dangerous refuses to adapt and "progress", then there is no justification to make that demand on them. Unfortunately, and probably because of the current Muslim problem, I read such demands to adapt and progress too often recently here on OLO.

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Dear May,

<<The Bible, both Old and New Testaments, and Qur'an, are all based on ancient superstition.>>

More likely, deliberate editing.

But who cares?

The real question should be: "does believing in the words of this book bring one closer to God?", otherwise "does believing in the words of this book at least make one a better, less selfish, person?".

If so, then who cares where the words came from - and if not, then you better burn that book, or at least hide it from those who cannot discover its inner value.

Yuyutsu,

I take it you mean ‘your particular idea of what religion is’, here:

<<People who practice religion arrive at a common experience, no matter which religion they were using to get there.>>

What is this “common experience”, and how have you eliminated the possibility of it having a rational, natural explanation? Also, what is it about this common experience that demonstrates your assertion that it is representative of true religion?

Until you can explain this, my ‘No True Scotsman’ charge still stands.

<<Those who do not arrive at this experience or at least had a glimpse, have nothing to hold on and being blind they can only latch onto external phenomena such as the specifics of the culture of those who practice religion.>>

Religions are a part of the culture they belong to and help to shape them. To deny this displays an incredible level sociological naiveté. You cannot separate them the way you have and nor have you even attempted to explain how one could.

<<Just because one is colour-blind, one should not use the word 'blue' to describe the shape, weight or temperature of some blue object.>>

This makes no sense at all. Is there a typo there?

The link that Runner put up showed level of frustration with Islam in Switzerland.
I was the other day making up in my head a list of countries having trouble with Islam.
I came to Switzerland and thought, have not heard of any trouble there.
When the video finished there was another of an Austrian politician having a go at
the Turkish ambassador. Seems like he was told to not concern himself about
the decapitation of a Catholic Arch Bishop.

No, we are not alone it does seem to be true EVERYONE is having trouble with Islam.
When is a political party going to give us a choice ?
When are our politicians going to have the guts and stand up and tell it as it is ?

It is surprising how every time an attempt to outlaw the current behaviour of radical Islam is put forward we have the Islamic supporters claiming the history of Christianity equalizes what Islam is doing today. Therefore we have no argument to defend Western Democracy against primitive barbarism.

We are supposed to just let the modern communications do the job. They despise Western media. Wars were fought to remove society from Roman Catholic suppression. As much as we hate Henry the VIII, his decision to break for personal lust from the control of the Roman Cultured Church did begin change in England.