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I Won't Read the Koran
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Posted by Bazz, Monday, 29 September 2014 7:54:22 AM
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Here is an example of a town called Luton, just north of London:
http://qpolitical.com/her-town-was-invaded-by-muslim-extremists-watch-what-happens-when-she-confronts-them/ Posted by Constance, Monday, 29 September 2014 9:30:33 AM
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WARNING!
Don't open the link above (Luton) - at least don't follow the links on that page because they lead to malware that can harm your computer! --- As for this discussion, which I've been watching silently so far until I get a solid opinion and would have continued to do so before this bad link required me to comment, so far what it seems is that there is a Muslim religion and there is a Muslim culture - and these are not the same. The Muslim religion is good, the Muslim culture is bad. I am not convinced that Muhammad is behind the Muslim culture - I think that this culture was there already when he came and Muhammad tried to curtail it. Muhammad also didn't write the Koran - it was edited by his followers after his death, selecting what fitted them, out of context, and discarding the rest. Even what was written in his name, he couldn't verify because he couldn't read, so they could have written just anything on those pieces of paper found 2 years after his death. It is therefore quite possible to be both a religious Muslim and a peaceful citizen. The Islamic culture is an enemy because they try to take away our freedom - and needs to be dealt with as such, but we should have no problem with the Islamic religion itself. The main tool to separate the two is to refute the authenticity of the Koran. Dear Hippie, There is no need for anyone to "adapt and progress with the rest of the world". Demanding that others do so places you in line with oppressive regimes, including Islamic ones. Suffice that we refrain from violence, that we live our own lives while letting others live theirs. Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 29 September 2014 10:47:00 AM
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I agree in some part with Yuyutsu.
Certainly, if there were gods, thry would not condone such violent acts as beheading people to prove a point. Those people are not following a religion, they are following their own murderous tendencies. It is similar to many people belonging to the violent side of the IRA in it's latter years. Most people in Ireland did not support these violent men in the IRA who bombed places that contained people of all religious persuasions, just to kill a few Protestants! Often violent, aggressive, angry people drift towards these organisations where they can practice their murders more easily, under the guise of giving a damn about any religious 'causes'. Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 29 September 2014 11:41:25 AM
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Look at what Christianity has done throughout history http://www.markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html It's JUST as bad as what Islam has done throughout history http://www.markhumphrys.com/islam.killings.html
BOTH religions have an evil and wicked history. Several hundred years ago Christianity was forced to change via the imposition of secular democracy and secular freedom upon Christianity. Christianity lost it's power then. The process took several hundred years, and Christianity finally reached the stage where it was no longer a threat to the freedom and peace of society. Currently Islam in the Middle East, has to go through the same process that Christianity went through hundreds of years ago. Islam will do it more quickly than Christianity because we are now in the modern age of communications, but it will still take time. BOTH religions have an evil, wicked and extremely violent history, and they have sought to dominate. Posted by May May, Monday, 29 September 2014 12:33:46 PM
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Yuyutsu,
Are you just saying there is malware to discourage viewing? Mohammad is their role model - hence the cult of Mohamadism. He was no man of peace. A business man who had 11 wives/concubines (heck, even 3 in his afterlife including the mother of Jesus), including a wealthy older widow, and a 6yr old child when he was a 53yro. He was a warrior who raped, pillaged and invaded. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Muhammads_Wives_and_Concubines Here are a few of his wives:- Aisha: “She was the daughter of Muhammad's best friend and head evangelist Abu Bakr. Muhammad selected the six-year-old Aisha in preference to her teenaged sister, and she remained his favourite wife. She contributed a major body of information to Islamic law and history. The paedophilic aspect of this relationship has institutionalised such marriages within Islam.” Hind: “An attractive widow with four young children, Hind had been rejected by her aristocratic family in Mecca because they were so hostile to Islam. Her tact and practical wisdom sometimes mitigated Muhammad's cruelties. She was a notable teacher of Islamic law and a partisan of Ali.” Zaynab: “An early convert to Islam, Zaynab was the wife of Muhammad's adopted son Zayd ibn Harithah. She was also the Prophet's biological cousin. When Muhammad became infatuated with Zaynab, Zayd was pressured into a divorce. To justify marrying her, Muhammad announced new revelations that (1) an adopted son did not count as a real son, so Zaynab was not his daughter-in-law, and (2) as a prophet, he was allowed more than the standard four wives. Zaynab excelled at leather-crafts.” Cont... Posted by Constance, Monday, 29 September 2014 12:37:24 PM
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It is necessary to have some knowledge otherwise any argument you put can only be shallow.
It comes down to; "know thy enemy."
Make no mistake Islam is the enemy, because Islam has declared we are the enemy if we won't convert.