"You obviously went to or have fallen for feminist science school"
Runny
I suggest you ask Foxy about that, among others here, not sure she'd agree with you, lol.
if you want a discussion about abortion, start one, or join one?

Hi (again) SUSEONLINE...

I thoroughly support these measures that you've identified, for crimes occasioned against women and children. In fact, I'd follow the Singapore and Malaysian model of corporal punishment, for these categories of offences. Women and children are amongst those who're generally unable to adequately protect themselves against a violent attack.

So it's for this reason, the State should provide sufficient warning of the possibility of corporal punishment as a strong deterrent directed at potential offenders, as a means of assigning women and children with some measure of protection. I don't know about you, but I'm heartily sick and tired of reading about the pathetically inadequate and feeble penalties these offenders receive, at the hands of our erudite 'jelly judges' !

More often than not, it's the woman victim who's cast as the 'agent provocateur' in the eyes of the Court, and that's patently wrong. If detectives are sufficiently convinced there was no question of 'consent' then the bumbling Court should accept that as the 'status quo' or 'judicially noted'.

I'm bound to inform you SUSEONLINE, there's a lot of work done by detectives, in matters of sexual assault briefs. Sorry, I'm well off Topic here.

We do seem to be having problems understanding basic English lately.

Suse,

Murder is the illegal killing of a fellow human being, a legal execution by the State is not murder.
Now did you understand that simple sentence?

Do you also understand that physical castration does not necessarily stop sexual intercourse and that chemical castration is reversible?

Many translations/interpretations of the Fifth Commandment exist but as we live in a nominally Christian country, I offer the interpretation by the preeminent Christian authority:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

Suse "....are you suggesting we do not interpret the words of something a supposed invisible being carved on stone and left for us mere mortals to live by,"
Don't you live by them?

G'day Bruce,
Did you read the link?
Then there is this
"There was a parliamentary review into changing the law, the Crimes Act was amended. The changes are referred to as ‘Byron’s Law’, named after Renee Shields’ unborn baby. The new legislation, the Crimes Amendment (Grievous Bodily Harm) Act 2005 (NSW) amended the definition of grievous bodily harm in the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) to include the destruction by a person of the foetus of a pregnant woman."

http://guides.sl.nsw.gov.au/content.php?pid=242811&sid=4247818

and then there is "Zoe's Law" which, as far as I know, is still before Parliament.

o sung wu,

I think that being locked away without any hope of release is a greater punishment than death, but unfortunately there is always the chance that a change of Government or a change of perception in the chance of winning votes may lead to eventual release and the consequent murder of more innocents.
So execution is the safer and less expensive option.

If we live in a democracy why isn't the issue of capital punishment put to the vote. Its always disturbed me when politicians make decisions on our behalf, that are not congruent with majority's wishes.

It makes sense to eliminate violent evil people who have committed horrendous crimes like you would a rabid dog. Whether its a deterrent or not, we should be sending a clear message to those who may eventually be convicted for a domestic terrorist attack. At the cost of $100K plus to keep people in prison, why waste the money or the bed space on a proven monster, for 10, 20 or 30 years? Or perhaps ever morning at breakfast give the option of an arsenic pill instead of eggs.

A well thought out capital punishment program could be restricted to the worst of nasty evil type crimes, terrorist related acts causing deaths, and possibly murdering a police person (how PC was that?) though I'm sure some on OLO would think killing a cop doesn't deserve special consideration.

The deterrent factor might possibly be enhanced by a speedy judicial system and shorter appeal process. If the death sentence was to be carried out within a year of sentencing, the process would be much more humane than dragging it out like they do in the USA.

As for ISIS related capital punishment... Drone them into non-existence as soon as possible and don't worry about taking them to court.

Hi (again) IS MISE...

You're absolutely correct. It's of little value if we put all our energies into structuring an adequate system for punishing these criminals. When along comes a new government, and in order to ensure a sound voter base, they'd sell their own kids especially if they thought it would guarantee they'd retain power. Not dissimilar to our 'jelly judges' that pervade our halls of justice ?

Is it not a case of; 'plan for the worst but hope for the best' ? Whenever we need to protect a good sound penology stratagem, from the meddling 'mitts' of tedious and unimaginative politicians ?

Is it not a case of; 'plan for the worst but hope for the best' ?
o sung wu,
Only morons would disagree with that.
Shame the Lefties don't think along those lines, imagine the millions of voting power for the good of the nation lost just like that !