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Rotherham reveals the price we pay for multiculturalism
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Posted by runner, Saturday, 30 August 2014 9:49:08 PM
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Good evening to you IS MISE...
I've not been out to Bankstown for awhile now, more like 12 months or so. Though I've seen how much this once well respected working class suburb has altered, with a mass of Arabic signage, one tends to feel the place has had a massive transformation from within ? Even materialising from some Middle Eastern region, to a point that it's almost unrecognisable. There're other indications of change too, where seeing the average Anglo Saxon Aussie is now the exception rather than the rule. The local shop-keepers are (always) quite cordial, even helpful, but it's the atmosphere one experiences when strolling about the retail and business precincts, and of course the Mall itself. The streets and lanes are recognisable, but not the peripheral sounds or odours - like the cacophonous strains of foreign, unrecognisable music and the many languages and dialects spoken, coming from the numerous Lebanese and other middle eastern businesses. Is this particular environment any more menacing or intimidating then say Sydney's China Town, in Dixon Street ? How about that symbol of fine Italian dining, Lygon Street, Melbourne ? Is that a place of ominousness and fear ? Maybe the mafia do still control that small quarter of Melbourne ? None of these examples are comparable to the folk of Bankstown. Because the latter is symbolic of an emerging group of people with a lifestyle and a culture, that's diametrically antagonistic and averse to ours, in our own country ! Moreover, their Imam's teach, the tenets and credo of their religion, strictly prohibits any association or assimilation with anyone, other than those faithful who are strict adherents of the Islam faith itself. IS MISE, it must be very beneficial indeed, that both your wife and yourself possess these linguistic skills. Certainly no load to carry, and I envy you both because of it ! Interestingly, many Arabs a quite fluent in the French. Maybe because of all the French colonialism, in the early 19th and 20th century ? Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 30 August 2014 10:52:44 PM
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The sex trafficking of white girls by Pakistani men in the UK hasn't only happened in Rotherham, but has also occurred in another part of England, Rochdale, Greater Manchester.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_trafficking_gang#Child_protection_organisations I don't believe this ever made it in the Australian media. Posted by Constance, Saturday, 30 August 2014 11:20:19 PM
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/rotherham-child-abuse-scandal-a-nation-in-disgrace-20140829-109u9m.html
"Even the journalist who first exposed the scandal avoided it at first. When The Times reporter Andrew Norfolk moved to Leeds in 2003, one of the first stories he covered involved young teenage girls targeted by "Asian men". "I didn't want the story to be true because it made me deeply uncomfortable," he wrote this week. However "I could not escape a nagging feeling that I hadn't done my job properly. I'd looked the other way rather than sought to establish the truth." His conscience was regularly prodded by "strikingly similar" stories from towns and cities across northern England and the Midlands. "It was always more than one man in the dock. And it was hard not to notice that … the convicted men in each case had something else in common. They invariably had Muslim names." Oh, he felt uncomfortable! I'm disgusted that people will sacrifice truth and the safety of the vulnerable for the sake of obeying the orders of political correctness. Weak conformity has played out big time in this whole scenario and other areas. Years ago I was reading about the high rate of honour killings occurring in the UK which go unreported, as officials tip toe around it and turn a blind eye because it is deemed too culturally sensitive. Same thing. Poor women. Posted by Constance, Sunday, 31 August 2014 12:57:40 AM
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What a terribly sad situation when these poor people, who ordinarily would not hesitate to respond to the multitude of allegations of sexual abuse and assaults on their young girls, are at this point faced with a 'morally incorrect' dilemma. 'Political correctness' once a handy phrase, but due to drastic societal changes has now become a weapon to protect the perpetrators, leaving moral justice a very dangerous option.
Riots in Sweden stemming from the integration issues with 200 right wing extremists, arriving on generous asylum policies. Increasing their population to 15%. Fire fighters attending to 70 fires, cars, buildings, a school and a police station. The muslims were seen driving their cars around the area, possibly deterred by the large police presence. $800 Muslims in Holland and reportedly over 1000 illegals in the Netherlands, evading the local authorities for visa checks. I do not know the reason why this large number of muslims have been dispersed into foreign societies, where many previous attempts of a civil integration have ended tragically. And in particular the very questionable decision to introduce 200 muselim left wing extremists into a society again of white, mostly Christians. I hope their is a positive outcome as opposed to previous heart breaking, tragic ones. Posted by jodelie, Sunday, 31 August 2014 3:40:14 AM
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Jodelle
To go back to my original point, the problem isn't Islam it's that the bureaucracy in Western countries is stacked with old ladies,cowards, imbeciles and people whose ideology or beliefs are every bit as corrosive to good social order as the wingnut end of Islam. We can live in a multicultural society but we can't have freedom and democracy at the same time, a multicultural society can be stable up to a point but that only comes from massive top down state management, secret Police, ruthless suppression of dissidents and so forth. The fact is that Australia has always been multicultural and until the 1970's always had the mix of political policing measures and para state enforcers in place to maintain harmony. With regard to Islam specifically what will happen is that the state will covertly back both dissident Muslim Liberals and aggrieved non Muslim immigrants and some form of thuggish street group who will take on the hardline Sunni types with the fist, the boot and the firebomb. There are going to be a lot of very bitter young Shia,Copts, Chaldeans and now it seems Yazidis emigrating here in coming years and they'll no doubt be recruited to the task of keeping down the Sunni radicals. Multiculturalism can be stable and relatively harmonious if you have a strong government with a tiered system of state and para state security operations, an absolute intolerance of dissent and a system which supports and rewards factionalism among ethnic minorities. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 31 August 2014 8:04:52 AM
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great link but even having a black woman speak won't even change the progressives pig headedness. You see multi culturalism triumps over any rationale. She was brilliant. How else would the progressives be able to eat halal kebabs. Thats more important than than stopping our young girls from being raped or terrorist plotting to blow up our stadiums.