Dear SPQR,

No one is suggesting that there aren't
"Mad jihadists," only that not all
Muslims are mad jihadists. There's a
difference.

Any religion
can be mis-used by zealots. However the
religion should not be blamed for what
some zealots make of it.

As for your comments about myself and Suse -
you've crossed the line with those.
I'd like an apology.

Cardinal Pell has been rounded up and declared disgraceful and much worse epithets (in New Matilda, for example), for his misplaced diplomacy and defences of the Roman Catholic Church. Roman Catholicism is on the nose and plenty are expressing doubts about the church's ability to govern itself, especially where the rights and wellbeing of children and women are concerned.

I am not disagreeing or agreeing with that, but simply asking why it is not OK for the RC Church to use errant, rule-breaking priests as its defence (say) re child molesting,

but

it is Ok for Islam to be excused for the denial of ordinary human rights to millions and continuing acts of extreme cruelty, usually against its own adherents and countrymen. This goes beyond the problem of other Muslims harboring psychopathic SOBs among them.

Never mind Foxy, sometimes we just need to spell it out again......slowly.

Sigh.

OTB, has anyone ever damned ALL Catholics as paedophiles just because a significant number of Priests have been found guilty of this crime?

You, and others on this forum, appear to damn ALL Muslims as violent terrorists because of the actions of SOME Muslims.

Do you see what I mean?

Foxy

Dear runner,

'What about the tennant of Christ's teaching -
forgiveness?

I forgive you Foxy for deliberately misrepresenting me.

S.O.L.: OTB, has anyone ever damned ALL Catholics as paedophiles just because a significant number of Priests have been found guilty of this crime?

How come it's the Catholic Priests that get all the attention. They only make up less than 10% of the total. You forgot to mention the CofE's & O.P.D's, Boy Scout Leaders, Gymnastics, Dance & Sports Coaches, Politicians, Lawyers, Teachers & some Dads.

S.O.L.: You, and others on this forum, appear to damn ALL Muslims as violent terrorists because of the actions of SOME Muslims.

No, the Moslems damm themselves. They are Moderate as individuals but when push comes to shove they are all Radicals. Their Religion says they have to be or they face the same fate as Infidels. E.G.;

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Telling people to kill unbelievers.

Sura (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (Margin note. "at home") and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (Margin note. "at home"). Unto all (Margin note . "Faith") Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (Margin note. "at home") by a special reward."

Suseonline,

You miss the point yourself. Go back and read my first para.

It is you who would have others take Islam as benign, peaceful and loving, and furthermore you declare others are 'racist' for their queries and criticism, although their concerns seem well founded in fact.

Now what about having a go at that question instead of side-stepping it? Here again and you might pay attention to the 'Islam' referred to,

Why it is not OK for the RC Church to use errant, rule-breaking priests as its defence (say) re child molesting,

but

it is Ok for Islam to be excused for the denial of ordinary human rights to millions and continuing acts of extreme cruelty, usually against its own adherents and countrymen. This goes beyond the problem of other Muslims harboring psychopathic SOBs among them.