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The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

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Dear Is Mise,

Still throwing popcorn.

Try again.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 11:00:09 AM
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To understand moderate Islam is to understand the principles of 6th - 7th century religion permeating society. The law was paramount in society and its interpreters are the representatives of God / Alla's laws on Earth. Mohamed influenced by Roman Catholic religion who at that time saw the Pope as the only true representative of God on Earth in similar line to the Roman Emperor of The Roman Empire holding all power over the law. The word of the Law was paramount and can only be understood and interpreted by the Imams, as they represent Allah on Earth, the masses are ignorant of his laws and must be taught them by a reputable Imam.
However we recognize most Imams are ignorant of the true principles as taught by Christ the prophet of Christianity.
1. He taught that the law was a Mosaic institution to serve the society of man, and not man serve the law. This is misunderstood by Islam as for them the laws are immutable.
2. Christ taught the greatest man among men must serve and not be served. The kingdom of God is about serving others not being master over others. A servant is one who is engaged in the betterment of others, and not their destruction.
3. Christ taught that society is changed by love and not enforcement of laws. There is no law of love as is flows from a pure spirit to bless and enhance others.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 22 August 2014 11:04:28 AM
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no such thing as a moderate Muslim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsiNKcjruyE

What religion were the Japanese?
Buddhist/ Christian/ Shinto.
What Religion are the Chinese Maoists?
None/Animists
What religion are the North Korean?
None/Animists
What religion were the Russian Communists?
None/ Russian Orthadox.

It wasn't Their Religion that caused these people to go to War.
It was:
Japanese:
Territory/ Economic Gain.
Chinese Maoists:
Political Ideology.
North Korean:
Political Ideology.
Russian:
Feudal System/ Political Ideology.

EJ: "The Koran contains no calls to violence except when defensive."

Any refusal to accept Allah is seen by Moslems as an attack on Islam.

EJ: "Jihad is mere self-struggle for Godliness."
Yair right.

Foxy: The child holding the head of the Syrian soldier was already in Syria. He had been brought there by his extremist and mentally deranged father.

What caused this father to become Mentally Deranged? My guess. The teachings of Islam. How many more deranged fathers are being produced by these teachings in Australia? & what effect will that eventually have on Australia's Unbelievers? Will Australia end up like the UK & Europe with Gettos of no-go arrears for unbelievers? How long before Australia has its first Sports Stadium or Train Bomb because of these Islamic inspired Deranged Fathers?

I guess we will never see an answer from any Islamic supporters here who don't wish to telegraph their intentions.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 22 August 2014 11:37:28 AM
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Dear Jayb,

Who knows what causes extremists and fanatics to
behave the way that they do. What causes Christians
to bomb abortion clinics, what causes others to shoot
their fellow students or innocent people at random.
And so on. Mental disorders are complex, usually
characterised by difficulties in recognising reality,
and regulating emotional responses and thinking in a
clear and logical manner. Some professional believe
that genetics play a heavy role.

Blaming any particular action by extremists on any
particular religion to which they may or may not belong
however is not a wise way to discuss the issues involved.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 22 August 2014 1:15:41 PM
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Good stuff Jayb.

With its plague of accidents and aberrations --if Islam was a car or airplane it would have been grounded years ago.
Posted by SPQR, Friday, 22 August 2014 1:28:18 PM
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Foxy: What causes Christians to bomb abortion clinics, what causes others to shoot their fellow students or innocent people at random.
And so on.

Fanatics, caused by their Religious beliefs, mostly.

Foxy: Mental disorders are complex, usually characterised by difficulties in recognising reality, and regulating emotional responses and thinking in a clear and logical manner.

Foxy: So you agree with me on that. Moslems to a greater degree.

So you really do agree with me (us) in this case.

Foxy: Mental disorders are complex.

It depends on they type of Mental Disorder we are talking about. One brought about by Genetics/Toxins or Environment e.g. Religious Teaching. (Christian, Jewish or Moslem

Foxy: A Galaxy poll run exclusively for News Limited revealed people's attitudes in the run up to Australia Day last year. One in 10 said multiculturalism worked very well and made Australia what it is.

Yes one in ten. 10% of Australians agree with Multiculturalism. I agree that there have been benefits, in food, & dance but not really much else. On the downside there is an increase in Drugs Barons brought in by Chinese Triads & Italian & Russian Mafia. Serious religious problems between the different Islamic Sects & Christianity slowly gaining in prominence in a lot of Suburbs. Of course of Political Correctness is leading the fight against Christianity in the Islamic Community, (no Christmas, Easter, etc.)
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 22 August 2014 2:47:40 PM
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