Truly amazing how intelligent people can be suckered into a "boat people" hysteria by the prevailing LNP/Labor strategy of vote gathering.

Why aren't you up in arms over this?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/immigration-rogue-on-deck-20140808-3de5w.html#ixzz39wANoZa1

"But the government has stalled the release of findings from an inquiry into the 457 visa scheme, with a spokesman for Assistant Immigration Minister Michaelia Cash saying only that the government was considering its recommendations.

Hundreds of pages of leaked and sensitive Immigration Department files obtained by Fairfax Media have revealed that entrenched failings by the agency's investigations arm has allowed migration rackets - including those with links to suspected terrorism and organised crime - to go unchecked."

Poriot, what is the matter with you ?
You asked about boats that no one knows exists;
You said;

otherwise they would probably have been "disappeared" much more fulsomely than Morrison attempted with his dastardly scheme to scuttle them to India in his orange pods.My point being that in the climate of Morrison's secrecy, it will
probably take some time to discover the realities about "on water
matters" sometime in the distant future.

Together with Jay you were on about unknown boats maybe sinking.
You are so politically biased it is unreal !

Poirot: the people on board that boat had not made personal contact with Australian advocates we would have known "nothing" about them.

Which proves the point that these people had been given contact numbers in Australia to ring once they had been picked up. Just because it was an Australian boat that picked in them up International Waters doesn't make it was Australia's responsibility. Say it was a German registered boat, would the German Government be responsible for their Asylum? I don't think so...

poirot: Why is it such a stretch to assume that other boats have managed to make it that far without it being publicly known - and if they did, we could ask what became of them?

Conspiracy Theory? They probably sunk in International Waters before they could contact their Australian Advocates. We will never know.

poirot: Hundreds of pages of leaked and sensitive Immigration Department files obtained by Fairfax Media have revealed that entrenched failings by the agency's investigations arm has allowed migration rackets - including those with links to suspected terrorism and organised crime - to go unchecked."

I agree with you regarding the 457 Visa's. It has always been a racket. Run by Refugee Advocates for Big Business, in the main. I notice.

How come you aren't into that other Forum I mentioned. Or are you, under another name?

Jayb,

"How come you aren't into that other Forum I mentioned. Or are you, under another name?"

Just to spite you, Jayb.

And....one can only take so much irksome interaction on any given forum...and no doubt that thread is full of it.

Bazz,

Using reason, it's a valid assumption that Morrison's secrecy is there for a reason.

It's also valid to surmise that the Oz public is being kept in the dark and fed BS....especially in light of the serial lying taking place in every other facet of this inept excuse for a govt.

poirot: It's also valid to surmise that the Oz public is being kept in the dark and fed BS....especially in light of the serial lying taking place in every other facet of this inept excuse for a govt.

That's par for the course of any Government in the World. That's why they call us Mushrooms.

Poirot: Just to spite you, Jayb.

Awww... No fair.

Poirot: And....one can only take so much irksome interaction on any given forum...and no doubt that thread is full of it.

Well we do have some doozy Islamic Radicals there, that's for sure. I thought you could bring a sense of reasonable into the discussion. ;-)

Poirot,
I agree with you about the article regarding fraud by 'immigration agents'.

Everyone should be raising hell about this. I am disappointed that there was not more in todays smh and it looks as though the info is exclusive to the Fairfax press.

To me it raises the whole question about the need for immigration agents anyway, who apparently charge for their services. I recall some years ago, there was at least one agent that was demanding sex from vulnerable women for his assistance.

I trust all the issues relative to immigration fraud will be subject to serious investigation. There are many questions to be answered by political leaders and bureaucrats.