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It’s Not the Boats, it's the Planes

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Europe has about 50 million immigrated muslims with approximately 80% on welfare. Nowhere else has the Greens had such influence. They hate the natural family with a passion. Can't believe anything they tell you.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 4:44:48 PM
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Yvonne,

Some Greens (including the South Australian branch) have said good things about stopping massive population growth, but the Greens never protested when the major parties boosted immigration. Kevin Rudd even got us up to 2.2% population growth in 2008 without a peep from the federal Greens, and they never said anything when Julia Gillard lied about her population policy until after she was elected.

Even if the Greens managed to get legal immigration down to net zero and stopped ordinary illegal immigration via fraud, an effectively open borders policy for anyone arriving in an irregular manner and claiming to be a refugee would wipe out all of the benefits. See the link in my previous post. If a failed asylum seeker has destroyed his travel documents and identification, it can be impossible to prove where he came from, and the home country can refuse to cooperate with deportation even if his nationality is not in dispute. Therefore, he gets to stay, unless we are prepared to keep him in detention.

So far as GDP is concerned, immigration probably does boost total GDP, but has little or no benefit for GDP per capita. In their 2006 report on immigration, the Productivity Commission modelled that doubling skilled migration would increase GDP per capita by less than $400, with that extra money going almost entirely to the owners of capital and the migrants themselves, while wages were depressed for the rest of the population. GDP per capita in Japan (with a shrinking population) has actually been growing faster than that of the US.

http://www.economist.com/node/10852462
Posted by Divergence, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 5:16:54 PM
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A large scale rogue employer of illegal workers has been uncovered by the CFMEU and who is footing the bill for those illegal immigrants, none other than the taxpayer of NSW through state LIBERAL GOVERNMENT. Explains a lot, it certainly does.
Workers are fortunate they have Brian Parker from the NSW CFMEU working to expose this crooked activity by employers in the building industry! We need a Royal Commission to look into this migration fraud.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 7:41:13 PM
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none other than the taxpayer of NSW through state LIBERAL GOVERNMENT
Paul1405,
How & how much ? Anything more substantial ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 6:21:46 AM
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Indi, The State Government projects, the Pond Public School and the Blacktown Mount Druitt Hospital's new Clinical Services Building. Are just two projects that have been uncovered as employing illegal Chines workers.

What the Minister had to say after being caught out;

"The NSW government is committed to ensuring that all workers are safe and receive what they are entitled to," said Mr Perrottet.

"Breaches are a serious matter and I urge anyone who has concerns to come forward and make a formal complaint."

As the person with ultimate responsibility for the projects should not the Minister ensure that workers are legal? he has a bloody big department to make sure, does he not. I suspect that is how these people like it.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 6:57:08 AM
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Paul & others, I am sure we are united that those 453 visa have become
a joke and it is time they were terminated.
There is almost no need for them now that the structural work on the
mining fields is concluding.
For all we know they may be working on stopping the flyins already.
We know they are aware of the problem, you only need to watch
Border Security program on TV.
Their problem is getting biometric data for incoming persons.
Overstaying students of course are another problem. It is a matter of
actully finding them. They are hidden by their national community groups
and paid in cash in the same community.
By using "megadata" etc if they do anything like buy a car get a drivers
licence, buy property, or insurance and compare against ATO records
they should be findable.
There are a host of other sources such as rental bond records, electricity bills, bank accounts etc etc.
All it needs is to bypass privacy rules and have a specifically
designed computer program to produce a list of overstayers and addresses.
Another list could be a list of non-persons that have cars, rent
payments and bonds, Opel cards, bank accounts etc etc.
A non person is someone that is not a legal immigrant, does not have
a birth record, does not have school records or has an issued death certificate.

But of course Sarah Hansen-Young would be appalled at the very thought.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 9:15:05 AM
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