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Beyond Blue Anti Racism campaign

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community of a few dozen people.
Paul1405,
Well, quality is rare in comparison to quantity. White nationalist, first I heard of that. I'm a staunch conservative since Labor exposed itself to be nothing but an academic yuppy club with a disfiguring growth calling itself Greens.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 3 August 2014 8:52:06 AM
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Paul 1405,
You don't understand the political scene in Australia, there hasn't been an "Extreme Right" in operation since the end of conservative rule in 1972, the groups which existed then were wound up by their ASIO and Special Branch handlers under pressure from Labor. As a matter of survival the spooks and political cops had to ditch the Nazis and the other political clubs and street gangs because they had Lionel Murphy breathing down their necks.
Australia First is a Sydney outfit, I live in Melbourne so I've not had any contact with them and I couldn't care less what happens in Sydney anyway, it's as remote to me as Moscow or Beijing.
All right wing groups in the past were para-state formations tied to conservative politics, while Bjelke Petersen's agents were able to make good use of Neo Nazis they're of no use to Abbott because he's not a conservative, so no, there are no right wing groups of that nature on the scene.
What we do have are groups aligned with Abbott's Liberal Internationalism and Zionism such as The Australian Defence League, Australian Patriots Defence Movement, Q Society and Freedom Party, those are the para-state actors at present.
In case you're wondering, no I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
I hope these words have set your mind at ease.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 3 August 2014 9:08:58 AM
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Foxy,
What is ridiculous about your 'racist facts' is your interpretation of the events.

None of the events you mentioned were of a racist nature. I am sure you are not that ignorant that you do not know that. Therefore the only conclusion left is that you did it simply to disparage Australia.
I just hope you do not have the hide to portray yourself as an Australian. With such actions you are not worthy of that tittle.

No Australian would deliberately lie and misinterpret events simply to rubbish Australia.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 3 August 2014 9:23:54 AM
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Thank you Jay, my mind is now at ease. Australia First Party HQ is just down the road from me in Tempe. Yes I recall the neo-fascist actively assisting Askin's Goon Squad, aka NSW Police Force, during the Vietnam War protests in the 70's, violently attacking peaceful protesters.
I think they were a loose community of like mindless friends as well.

"disfiguring growth calling itself Greens." Indi I'm still waiting for you to fill us in on the latest with those 'Rolf Harris' mates of yours up there in the Deep Deep North. As you said <<I (Indi) know ordinary blokes who are no different (to Rolf Harris the kiddy fiddler) but their behaviour is tolerated (by you I assume)>> That was a big ststement.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 3 August 2014 10:12:58 AM
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Banjo,
It's interesting to see immigrants bursting with pride in this country and turning out in droves to wave their little Australian flags on Australia day.
Surely there must be something to assimilate into and you'd have to assume that since nearly a quarter of people on this continent were born elsewhere that this is a tolerant society which has at it's basis assimilation of strangers rather than "Racism".
I put the question to the Anti Racists again, if the majority of Australians are "Racist" how is it possible that people like me fail in their attempts to capitalise on such sentiments?
If I went out onto Federation Square and started promoting "extreme right" ideas two scenarios would play out:
A:If the Police saw me first they'd eject me from the square, frisk me,take my details and probably issue me with a temporary ban on entering the CBD.
B: I'd be surrounded and screamed at by passers by and probably beaten up until Police intervened and enacted scenario A.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 3 August 2014 10:15:23 AM
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Dear Banjo,

I was born in this country and stating historical
and documented facts are simply that. If you look
upon those historical facts as "disparaging
Australia," when for example, up until the early
1970s, assimilation and the preservation of "White
Australia" continued as the Australian Government's
official policies. Migrants of every ethnic origin
were expected to assimilate promptly into a
monocultural mould of Australian identity, based on
the Anglo-Saxon and Celtic culture.
I'm simply stating things as they existed. The facts
are what they are. I did not make them up to "disparage"
anyone. And it is sheer nastiness on your part to suggest
to me that I am not Australain. I and my family have
paid their dues to this country in blood, sweat, and
tears.

Reading a wider range of opinions and doing a broader
range of research just might provide you with a better
understanding of the real situation and allow you to
tackle questions in a better and more reasoned manner,
alleviating the need to stoop to personal insults
when the discussion gets too difficult.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 August 2014 11:32:04 AM
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