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Abbott wants the carbon tax gone to prop up the Generators.
The householder will get nothing.

The wholsale price of electricity is currently selling for 4.0 cents / kWh. If you take 9% off of 4.0 cents you get .364 cents. So a 1000 kWh of electricity you will get $3.64.

The average kWh / household in AU is 4600 kWh / yr so that means you get a saving of $16.74 / year saving.

Abbott says we will get $550 savings / year. So who is going to pay.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 26 June 2014 3:55:16 PM
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The wind..is always blowing=;..somewhere.
oug,
Yes, I think everyone's aware of that. I was taking about building those turbines, totally made from petroleum, Alloy & fibreglass. Look up the making of these materials & the building of the electricity equipment.
Have a look at those turbines which have burnt down & send some of the most toxic fumes into the atmosphere.
If you really want to reduce toxic emission go back to writing pads, normal phones & don't have bureaucrats fly all over the world by using taxpayer funded frequent flier points. A/c too is a huge consumer of energy. I see government housing A/C's running full bore whilst the bureaucrats are away on some unacceptable junket meeting to increase their allowances to put more of our tax dollars into their super funds. You'd have a heart attack if you knew how many of them there are all over the country. Many are even writing their fishing trip fuel off the tax. Many of them are Greenies & church goers to add insult to injury. You people down in the larger urban areas don't get to see what we in Bush witness. You'd think you're in a Wall Street Café.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 26 June 2014 5:23:50 PM
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NOT REALLy INDY
IF WE WERE IN a wall street cafe
[at least THERE THEY PAy their own bills.]

YES I/HAVE Seen the burned ones/and the twisted/broken ones
the dead birds..and the sPIN..[it wasnt me that said the wIND THING
CAUSE IN europe i know isnt even big enough/to have contineus-WIND

ANYONE WITh brains can see we dont need HUGE TwindOWERS
/WE NEED SMALLER/generators\MUCH LIKE THEM ROOF VENTILATORS
I SIT OVER A FEW OTHER HOMES/THEM THINGS ARE ALLWAYS Turning[AS THE AIR IN THE CEILING WARMS COOLS..etc/plus they last FOREVER/IT couldnnt be too hard/to mounT A GENNY INTo it/REALLY ONLY THE ARMITUER NEEDS SPIN

A saw..in the late 70's..AN AFFAIR MADE FROM OLD SAILS
set/up to catch/the heat/MUCH LIKE a Tipi/ON THE SUN SIDE/WITH A flat back/it purely warmed the air/so the air rising drive TURBNES

But back to this tax thing/i heard clIVE\had to pay his carbon tax..[3 millioN?]..and that poor fellA ISNT A DOUBLE BILLIONARE/BUT NOW down to his last billion/and buys secOND HAND/NOT FUEL EFFICIENT/THAT HE 'created' 40 TONS OF CARBON ferrying ol all gore arround AUSSIE..LAST FEW DAYS

INDEED A SPLENDID PAir/one mning coal
the other buring coal/while he heats his hme WHILE HE IS IN OZ[BUT THANKS BE TO HIS CARBON OFFSETS[READ FREE SOLAR/...its all great/while the sun shines

IM TOLD THAT ENERGY STORAGE;IS HELD BETTER/BY/BEING STORED AS CentTRIFICAL IMPUTus STORGAGE/DEVICE]THAT STORE ThE ENERGY AS MOTION
Posted by one under god, Friday, 27 June 2014 8:38:30 AM
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IT HAS been one of the most controversial taxes in Australia’s history and next month it will finally be gone — or so Tony Abbott hopes.

Yesterday Clive Palmer said his Palmer United Party senators would only support the axing of the carbon tax if legal guarantees were in place to ensure energy companies pass on savings to consumers.

But electricity bills are only expected to make up about $200 of the $550 a year in savings the Prime Minister says households should receive from repeal of the tax.

The savings are also expected to impact prices for transport, water and waste management.

But consumers may not see decreases, particularly for waste management and water prices, depending on where they live.

While Mr Abbott hopes to backdate the carbon tax savings to July 1, it could take months for the charges to come off bills, if at all. There is also uncertainty about whether people will get refunds if tax continues to be charged after this date.
Posted by 579, Friday, 27 June 2014 4:55:14 PM
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579,
Just for once, could you please get together with all your academic wrong-wing mates & see if you can compose just a few sentences of how YOU would tackle the problem of electricity for the future. I mean some real proposals/ideas rather than just Abbott criticism. If you think electricity is too costly & polluting, what do you suggest should be done to make it cheaper & less polluting ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 28 June 2014 1:05:08 PM
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/QUOTE..<<..If you think electricity is too costly & polluting, what do you suggest should be done to make it cheaper & less polluting>>

THE PI0NT IS/over time..we have stopped and minimised/the danger-polutants from our air/water..etc[so much so/that all that 'smoke'/shown..on the media/is steam.

but they cant tax steam/no tax stream
so they said/hey c02 isnt visable..its weightness/and\uNSEEN
SO LETS TAX IT BY WeiGTH/THE 'TON'..[aint that fun]

thing is/we improved/and refined coal burning/energy onto an energy grid..to the cost of production..of 4 cents a kilo/watt-hour..yet by clever accounting/pay a few elite mates/who built hectares [miles of free solar income streams/55 cents a kilo-watt

now i think thats obscene/so how to fix things=sue those who set out to screw the rst of you/and sue them and their flunkies/and take back the huge bribes and payoffs/they gave to their old school chums/and their buildings

thats infair terms/no matter how you chose to look at it
4 cents?..as opposed to buying at 55 cents to sell at 23 cents
any reasonable person can see the lie/wrought by fraud science and delusional lobby/feeding off the public trough big time

its a crime
if we all stopped feeding the beast money
the beasty will die/dont pay the power bill..its that simple.
SAY YOU CAN PAY IT OFF...@5 dollars the week./no stuff it/refuse to pay..its odious debt/it polutes everything that it touches/junk bougfht with this stolen/by fraud loot isnt legal/under law.

chickens comming home to roost
keeP a cash reserve on hand/not in thE BANK
I THINK IF YOU PAY BY CREDIT/THEY GET LESS..no stuff it..itS CRIMINAL

TAKE DIRECT ACTION
DONT PAY THE BILL.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 28 June 2014 1:24:30 PM
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