Foxy : That there is a belief that the poor are in poverty because they are idle and prefer to live on "handouts."

No, some people are poor because they have no useable skills, or have a very low SG rating, SG-3 & below. Can't be trained for anything. Sub-Saharan Culture. Most people are SG3 or above. SG (Specific Grouping). I am SG2+. Able to be trained & retain to do anything. SG1-, SG1, SG1+ are you Genius Groupings.

Some people are SG3, & just plain "Bogans" & "Durs" That's why they are poor & live on handouts. It's these people that are lazy &, "Should be given a swift kick up the ar$e." These are the people that should be targeted where the Dole is concerned.

Foxy: most of the rest are mothers with young children,

A good percentage are young girls who have just left school. They have come from a family living on Welfare. They have the intention of getting pregnant as fast as possible to collect the welfare & as much in the way of handouts as they can get, living at home to help support the family. Just off hand I can count of 10 families that I know of in my little town that live like this & intended to live like that before they left school. They think that this is normal.

Jayb,
I have a responsibility to me and mine and a right to protect it when I have to.
I am not my brothers keeper, I can't afford him.
If someone wants what I have then let him either fight me for it or work for it.

chrisgaff1000: I have a responsibility to me and mine and a right to protect it when I have to.
I am not my brothers keeper, I can't afford him.
If someone wants what I have then let him either fight me for it or work for it.

I don't know where your coming from here. but I'll try to make some sense of it.

I'll do a Clive. Apologies before I start.

Chris, any time you want to assemble a group of spastic on the Parade Ground & get them ready for work, be my guest. Until then, these people seriously need the best help the Government & anybody who can lend a hand can do to help them. If it's beneath you or you are to tied up in your own little World, best you stay away. From everybody.

The crazy OLO rightie dogma = "Gee, those evil, wicked, leftie dole bludgers must be living the high life on their $252 a week: Polkies, pubs, brothels, drugs galore, porn, sleep ins all day etc etc etc".

What parallel universe are you crazy righties living in?

G'day CHRISGAFF1000...

I reckon your assumptions are a little too unrealistic, when you say; '...if someone wants what I have; then let him either fight me for it, or work for it...' ?

The noun 'work' (which equates to 'effort') would possibly not necessarily form part of some people's vocabulary. Neither would the verb 'fight' for the same reason ! To 'fight' one needs to have a bit of heart ! Conversely, you need 'heart' in order to get up every morning and go to work !

A curious conundrum for some I'm afraid, in fact any resolution to this trifling enigma, is well beyond their potential to solve, I would've thought ?

Chris, Are you a 'Doomsday Prepper' all you need is a AK47, a can of beans and a hole in the ground, and your set for any eventuality from that "brother" of yours. LOL

The 'Usual Suspects', I need some advice, as a $252 a week "dole bludger" I'm presently spending $250 of it on pokies, pubs, brothels, drugs and porn. Do you thing you chaps on OLO will get terribly upset if I simply blow the other $2 on a luxurious life style?
Also, with the change from daylight saving, does that mean I should now get up at 11am instead of 10? You lads will be please to hear that I once looked for a job, but unfortunately I was so traumatized by the experience my 'case manager' down at 'Centrelink' has forbid me from ever doing so again, that was in 1957, besides, I'm holding out for a managerial position. LOL