Jotiki,

Jobs have been disappearing ever since the copper, then bronze, then steel axe replaced the stone axe, certainly since the mechanical plough replaced horse and bullock teams. So what did people usually do in that situation ? They used to look for other jobs, perhaps unconsciously up-skilling, but seeking work wherever it sprung up.

Victims ? Hardly. When sensible people see a bull coming, they get out of the way. You might be used only to horses for transport but when you see a train coming, you get on it. Nobody, NOBODY, has to be a victim, locked into some time-honoured means of labour.

When I went fruit-picking forty-odd years ago, the local employment bloke was enforcing the policy that nobody got unemployment benefits if there were jobs available in the district. Sounded fine to me then, and it sounds fine to me now.

Yes, bludgers will always be with us. If they are able-bodied, that's their problem, nobody else's.

Joe

Loudmouth,

you are correct to note that over time as society and technology evolves so do the types of jobs and education required.

And like everyone else the poor peoples of Anglo Australia (convicts who built the nation) throughout time (even back in Britain) also adapted to changes like that as did everyone.

This is not even remotely comparable to the massive unprecedented changes in Australia since 1950 that has led to this mass unemployment.

In historical term it was basically overnight that the entire labour force classes went from having jobs abundant to get to having 80% of those jobs deleted from their life (given to Asia) and left with no awareness of why any of this was happening.

Now the only way is to retrain or to get certificates for knowledge they already had and (in the past) used to able to work anyway without certificates.

Why didn't the world of work and types of jobs in the wealthier classes change at all during this upheaval - why only the lower class world?

Jottiikii – By default as soon as you mention race whether it be positive, negative or neutral the statement becomes racial. I the case of this forum the thread will veer off into the normal predictable ho hum territory. You played that game.

There are only two classes and they are producers and parasites. This planet will only mend when the makers are rewarded more than the takers.

Humans farming humans is destroying not only this country but the planet!

Producer,
If you have not read 'Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand I suggest you do. It is all about the 'makers' being rewarded more than the 'takers'

Hasbeen- You talked about a time when jobs were a dime a dozen, a time of wanderers going from job to job, jacks of all trades, hard work admittedly but there was plenty of it ! Times have changed,most of those jobs have gone, long time since I have seen a sign saying "Laborers needed apply within" Its now the 21st century and jobs are no longer a dime a dozen. So why do you even try to compare today with yesteryear ! No one really had an excuse to be unemployed during the times you are talking about(Which was a very limited short period of time, by the way) today however is a total different story ! It appears you have forgotten much !

Sorry Bazz and Loudmouth, I think Jottiikii is right!

So many unskilled and semi-skilled jobs have gone since the 50's. Factory jobs - to overseas or automation. Railway jobs - to 'rationalisation', to automation, and to track building and maintenance machinery. Roads jobs, demolition and construction, concreting, bricklaying, and waterfront/stevedore jobs - due to automation, pre-fabrication and use of heavy equipment. Farming and horticultural - replaced by machinery, bigger tractors and implements in broadacre farming, sugarcane and grape harvesting, and in all manner of fruit and vegetable growing and handling.
And what about mail sorting, handling and delivery?
Practically nowhere has been immune from the 'knife' and the profit-motive.

Remember when you could ring directory information, for free, and speak to a nice Aussie lass?
Or ring just about any large organisation and talk to someone in your State capital?

On housing: My parents bought a house in Sydney in 1966 for $35,000, which sold in 1990 for $1million, and was on the market in 2011 for $4million.

I did buy my first house, in Sydney, when I was just over 35, in 1981, for $85,000 (on a 70% mortgage), and I venture that same house would probably be worth $850,000 now.

Times definitely have changed, and not all of it for the better.

Since finishing high school and uni I have worked all my life, save for 6 months after I finished Nasho's in '67, and make no apologies for what I have achieved for myself.

So, the likes of Nhoj (No-Hoper On Jungle-juice) gets right up my nose with his raving about ideology, racism, Whitey's, Anglo's and middle-class welfare. The likes of Nhoj wouldn't know what it's like to work, and certainly would have no appreciation of the sacrifices, the blood, sweat and 'knocks' it has taken to make this country what it is.
If Nhoj had his way, Oz would be opening the front door to every no-hoper from every third-world looney-tunes-religious hell-hole, just to take the 'Aussie' down 'a peg or two'.
An outright troublemaker of the first order.