.....To put it bluntly, they want to work. But the bosses don’t want them. That's just the point Jottiikii, they didn't as this rout has being going on for decades. You have to remember, this thread is about 'dole bludgers' ruining the lives of many genuine job seekers you know, the ones who are grateful for the tax payer funded assistance they receive.

However, if one chooses to waste their dole in the pub, or on gigs or pokies, then not be fit for work, then they are by the very definition, 'dole bludger's.

Now if we followed your rule, of not retraining ones self, well, perhaps we wouldn't have invented the wheel.

If a person can be trained for one skill, they can be trained for many, but first they must want to. That's why we may see the earning or learning change. A change for the better I say.

Nhoj oh dear!

Rehctub wrote, "if one chooses to waste their dole in the pub, or on gigs or pokies, then not be fit for work,then they are by the very definition, dole bludgers".

Rehctub, you need to prove you wrote that statement not out of biased, blind "ideological political correctness" but based it on empirical fact. So, answer the following ....

(1)Name the people who "waste their dole specifically on polkies/gigs/pub for the specific purpose of not being fit for work". Name them, one by one .... give first names and surnames. Let's see how long your list is.

Yep, let's see if you can back up your "specific" claim with "specific" empirical fact via "specific" lists of names.

< He could get an extras couple of bob a month by selling the tobacco. >

How many rules and regulations were around back then, Hasbeen, that prevented people from actually working in some kind of fashion to make an extra buck?

That's right, none!

How many rules are there now, Hasbeen, preventing people from making an extra buck without obtaining a thousand signed certificates allowing them to work? Or paying some extortionist twenty grand a year for insurance in case they break something.

Hell, a lot of folks now won't even let a kid mow lawns if he hasn't got a 2 million public liability insurance! That lawnmower might eat their poodle!

It's all good and well to say people actually got off their arses and did stuff to look after them selves in years gone by. But they're not allowed to any more. Consumers always demanding .gov protect their miserable arses and insurance companies and trade groups lobbying .gov to protect theirs!

A lot of dole bludgers are only doing what the system demands them to do, bludge, they can't afford anything else!

I think you missed the point there RawMustard. Part of his pay was a couple of ounces of tobacco a week. He sold that to some of the others on the same deal, for whom 2 ounces was not enough.

As they would also have been getting the same 10 bob a month, I doubt this earned much, & could hardly have been called a business.

However I understand what you mean. I had a wholesale nursery, growing advanced plants for the landscape trade. Some of my customers would occasionally call to look at something, or to pick up a batch of plants they needed for a current job.

Some "B" grade twit in the council accused me with running a retail nursery without the necessary approvals, & threatened all sorts of penalties.

They really do want to make it hard for anyone where ever they can.

Nhoj, of cause I domt have first names and surnames, even if I did, this world of political correctness would see me sued for privacy breaches.

One such family I used to see regally, not my colour, used to frequent the pub daily, at least for about three days per week. Welfare comes in many forms when you have a lot of kids, so it was weekly.

In fact, I was down the shops the other day and guess what, there they were some three years later.

If you don't think it happens you need to get out more.

But I guess with those lot it's simply accepted, isn't it!

It's been a joke for decades and still still is today, but their days are numbered. Well, perhaps not theirs!

Rehctub, so for all your ideological grandstanding with your demonisation of Newstart recipients, you can identify *ONE* family who "in your opinion" are bludgers ..... just ONE family you know of out of 22 MILLION people in Australia.

AAAAAAAAAAND .... I see you didn't miss the opportunity to point out they are not "white" like you. You are an anti immigration racist through and through.

And I notice in another post you also state you are doing it "tough" on a *ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR* income (no doubt a superannuation pension, as you are retired, with all the required middles class welfare ... oops I mean TAX BREAKS). Oh you poor little, hard done by petal. Life must be so tough for you, while those wicked dole bludgers live it up on $252 a week. Ha ha ha.