Cossomby,

<< we should welcome economic migrants …because they have an incentive to achieve. >>
They CANNOT be economic migrants and use the Refugee Convention to justify acceptance. And people like you who think that such is quite ok are aiding and abetting a major league scam.

<<If they are 'refugees' it means they are fleeing a situation where they are repressed and cannot archive their aspirations in their original country….>>
On that measure 4/5s of Asia and Africa would qualify! And in case you haven't noticed there are other channels which those with aspirations and talent can apply --and surprise, surprise tens thousands do each year!

<<Malaysia etc. may have substantial numbers of Indians, Chinese, etc. but those countries were not founded as immigrant societies and do not have the immigrant make-good ethos that we do. >>
Depends how you define *founded*. Have a think abut why the British encouraged Indian and Chinese Immigration in to Malaysia –And even today Malaysia relies on huge numbers of imported workers to keep things going. The idea that we alone owe our current standing to immigrants is a furthy that illegal immigration apologists dreamed-up whilst smoking some of the Greens real grass.

<<Actually when you talk about 'my side', it's not clear whether you are a lefty and think I'm right wing or vice versa>>
You cannot run with the Foxy’s and hunt with the SPQRs –if you run with the Foxy’s and Paul's you are supporting a far left agenda
(now watch the aforementioned two come out of the wood work & claim they're misunderstood!)

Dear Banjo,

Unfortunately you don't seem to be able to
tell the difference between rumours and
documented facts.

Sigh.

Paul1405, the report was talked about in the mainstream media (not just your chain email), who presumably actually read it.

None of them denied the "namby pamby" recommendations existed, nor did the then-prime minister.

""I completely disagree with all the conclusions of that report," she said."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/anzac-centenary-commemorations-should-be-culturally-sensitive-government-research-claims/story-e6freuy9-1226309721615

Note, she doesn't *deny* the conclusions, she just disagrees with them.
Whether the government *acts* on its recommendations doesn't change their nature (or the money spent on it).

As you can't name the report, I presume you haven't read it either. :P

R0bert, the boy who cried wolf are the bureaucrats/academics who see potential or actual "offence" in everything White Australians do.

Cossomby, "India, Malaysia and Indonesia? None of those countries are migrant-based societies"

And we are not a migrants-from-every-and-any-culture-based society.

We are a European-(primarily-British)-migrant-based society.

So if immigration isn't a significant part of Indian, Malaysian or Indonesian history, *pancultural* immigration isn't a significant part of ours.

Only British/European immigration had any significance here for 200 years.

Why can India, Malaysia and Indonesia keep their demographics intact, but we must radically transform ours? (80% non-Euro immigration in recent years)

"those countries were not founded as immigrant societies"

Neither were we.
We were a penal colony.

Initially the only "immigrants" were convicts and those who managed them.
Free settlers (primarily subjects of the British Empire) came later.

"Actually when you talk about 'my side', it's not clear whether you are a lefty and think I'm right wing or vice versa"

Your side are utopians, ours are realists.

It's just that leftism is inherently utopian/idealist, so the pancultural agenda is primarily endorsed by the Left (Yes, some libertarian Right are just as naive, but they're less prominent).

Shockadelic, you need to let go of the 'Old Country's apron strings and admit that we are no longer a British colony for goodness sake!
And don't forget the Aboriginals were here well before your beloved 'white' immigrants.

Drag yourself into the current century and stop being so frightened of our current immigrants.
You may just enjoy life here in fab Oz a little more :)

Foxy,
You made a sweeping statement in which you claimed 5 specific items were 'facts' of Australian racism.

I suggest you cannot show evidence that the mentioned items show Australian racism.

It is shameful that you make up items and present it as 'facts' of racism.

A decent and honourable person would withdraw the statement and apologise, but it shows the deceit some will go to in promoting multiculturalism.

You are starting a rumour that the items you say constitute racism.

They simply do not and you are very aware of that. I'll remind you tomorrow again of what you said and that you also posted that you are concerned as to how nasty and vacuous rumours start.

Foxy <""People who are in denial about racism in this country are simply ignorant. Lets look at the facts - we imprison
brown asylum seekers, we once celebrated our national day
with a white racist riot. There were assaults on Indian
students, a little political organisation called
One Nation, and of course "the intervention" - the heraldic
beak on our long hawkish treatment of Indigenous Australians".

All true comments Foxy, and all are shameful examples of racism in our fine country.
Anyone who disagrees is in denial, or is happy with this behaviour.

Foxy is one of the most decent and honourable contributors to this forum, so anyone who considers her 'shameful' or 'deceitful' should take a long hard look at himself.....