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Dear Nhoj,

You may be a saint, but Jesus taught us to turn OUR OWN other cheek, not that of others.

Yes, Abbott made a bad promise because it is wrong to forcibly prevent people from arriving at a continent.

Yet, unlike your exceptional generosity, others seem unwilling to sacrifice their standard of living and security - and indeed no one should be obliged to accept others into their society, for whatever reason, good or bad.

In conclusion, evil is being caused here due to the fusion and confusion between geography and society. The original sin in this case is not the rejection of refugees, but the forceful assertion of sovereignty over vast areas of land by powerful societies (or more commonly, by individuals and groups who claim to represent their society).

In practice, the solution is to neither encourage nor discourage refugees from reaching to continent of Australia, but not to feed them or accept them into Australian society and cities - unless adopted as pets (and kept on a leash) by warm-hearted people like yourself.

It is shameful when Australia treats people worse than animals.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 28 April 2014 10:15:32 AM
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The last 3 posts are a good example of how backward, radically right wing and pre 1950s Australia has become. In regards to refugee policy, Australia has regressed over the past decades. We are now a much lesser country, content with our fat bellies, expensive homes, overseas holidays, expensive cars, high paying jobs (by world standards) and guaranteed pensions and unemployment support.

And, we want to KEEP IT. And we have we been brainwashed into thinking that the way to keep it is to keep refugees OUT of Australia. It's a case of pamper ourselves and stuff the refugees. Over the past decades settlers, migrants and refugees from overseas have ADDED to our GDP over time, not subtracted from it. Duh!

We now see refugees as a threat and the enemy. Yes, our brainwashing was completed at the last Federal election, by "both" major parties.

We've become a nation consumed by far right wing political correctness and paranoia
Posted by Nhoj, Monday, 28 April 2014 12:45:45 PM
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Dear Nhoj,

You call me "radically right wing" just as others on this very topic call me "radically left wing" - I got used to it on this forum, though as far as I'm concerned I never think in such stupid terms.

Nevertheless, as an independent thinker I take offence at being called "politically correct".
- I beg you to show me where, if any, have I displayed such cowardice.

I am not afraid of refugees or see them as enemies - I am a refugee myself.

However, I fully respect the right of others not to admit me into their society - or anyone else they do not like.
I do not agree, however, that others have any entitlement to deny other people entry into the entirety of one of God's blessed continents.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 28 April 2014 2:06:39 PM
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Nhoj - The world has somewhere around 45 million refugees, Australia has tens of thousands of economic refugees give me 1 good reason why Australia should support them just because there country was so corrupt there is no social security programs.

WE should start to do what Ireland does which is as follows. That will soon weed out the rejects

What Ireland give refugees
Gives them group accommodation (like all in one housing commission building not separate house)meals and a bed nothing else they go to a different place and get 19 Euros per week spending money. They are not allowed to work. Some have waited more than 8 years to be assessed.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/04/ireland-under-fire-over-refugee-treatment-2014425175020526225.html
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 28 April 2014 2:21:34 PM
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Well, unlike you, I realize there's more to taking in extras than just feelings.

First and foremost, there's the costs, for which you say we should just go without some of our ways in order to accommodate these illegals.

Then there's the food, as we are fast approaching the state of being a net food importer.

And of cause, there is our own means of helping ourselves, by not having kid after kid as we know that we can't provided for them, and let's face it, that is at the heart of the problem in he first place, controlled population growth, something that appears foriegn to these invaders.

It's very hard to help people who rescues to help themselves.

Now if that make me a person you despise, I think you hating me is the better option.

As I say, if you don't like our country, you are free to leave.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 28 April 2014 2:28:13 PM
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Yuyutsu, oops my mistake. Sorry. I should have proof read my post. I meant the last few posts on the "previous page" (excluding a post from me that's amongst them).

Rehctub, methinks the "hater" is in fact you. Settled refugees are an economic PLUS. Settlers, migrants and refugees over the past 60 years have IMPROVED our GDP. I know your right wing political correctness makes these facts hard for you to accept. So be it.

PhilipS, 1 good reason? Simple decency. But I bet you're happy to drive home in your nice car and then sit down on your comfy armchair, in your nice house, after cashing your lovely weekly earnings, then turn on Andrew Bolt and be shocked at the thought of these refugee criminals and thieves invading our sweet nation in order to live off our money, rape our daughters, impose Sharia Law and just be nasty, nasty "illegals". You've really been brainwashed by right wing ideology and political correctness haven't you.
Posted by Nhoj, Monday, 28 April 2014 3:41:50 PM
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