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Nohj,

There are more than forty million genuine refugees in the world. Perhaps hundreds of thousands have filled out all the right forms to come to Australia, which has a quota of twenty-odd thousand genuine refugees per year. So they do all the right things,wait their turn in ghastly camps, usually for many years. There's a queue, nohj.

The vast majority of those genuine refugees, in Jordan and in African countries, will never be able to afford to drive out by bus to their nearest airport, let alone fly to Indonesia and pay to get on a boat. Your 'line-of-sight' 'refugees' can, it seems.

Can you see what's wrong with this picture ?

Best of luck,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 28 April 2014 4:23:15 PM
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Nojh is expressing a business as usual rant.
Before long we are going to have a hard time support those here now
let alone hundreds of thousands like he would like to arrive here.
We need NOW a zero immigrant intake.
It is really an up the drawbridge scenario coming.

Let them fix up their own countries just like we did.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 28 April 2014 5:12:01 PM
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.....Rehctub, methinks the "hater" is in fact you. Settled refugees are an economic PLUS. Settlers, migrants and refugees over the past 60 years have IMPROVED our GDP. I know your right wing political correctness makes these facts hard for you to accept. So be it.

Nhoj, 100% agree with you, BUT, that's when we were a developing nation with plenty of opportunity and the IMIRANTS wanted to work and start a life for themselves.

Today we are a whole different country, with a dwindling tax revenue and fewr jobs on the horizon.

I don't hate anyone but the fact is that charity must start at home, and right now, with so much uncertainty, is not the time to be opening ourselves up in aid of illegals.

Even genuine refugees should not be up for consideration and 457 visas should be postponed until we get the country back on track. Illegals should simply be stopped, as is the case now that we have a government with balls.

Once we get the ship headed in the right direction, then, and only then, should we reconsider our position on immigration. BUT!, definitely not for illegals as they are breaking the law.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 28 April 2014 5:15:00 PM
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Nhoj - Quote "Simple decency." So let me get this straight if someone who is an illegally in this country scams you destroys your property and sexually assaults someone you know you will let them and say you are being decent, pull the other one it plays jingle bells.

Please explain why on most boats 95% were men?

Please explain why they bypassed a number of countries that they could have got refuge in, or countries that were closer than Australia?

Explain why a number of them have been living in safe countries for up to 20 years before coming here?

Quote you "Settled refugees are an economic PLUS. Settlers, migrants and refugees over the past 60 years have IMPROVED our GDP."

Years ago yes BUT these arriving now are scammers justify 85% being still on welfare when they have been here over 5 years.

Sorry to disappoint you I have not been brainwashed I just understand the reality better than you.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 28 April 2014 5:25:25 PM
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100% brainwashed. You do Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt proud.
Posted by Nhoj, Monday, 28 April 2014 5:38:46 PM
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Good afternoon to you NHOJ...

You say you're ashamed of Australia ? Well I for one, are very sorry to hear that ? May I ask what are your options ? You're obviously not erudite sufficiently enough, to correct that which annoys you, ostensibly those in the current federal government ? What other avenues do you have available to you ?

Perhaps you might seek to immigrate to another country, or at least 'try before you buy' so to speak. Spend say six to twelve months examining their culture, their social security benefits etc. But first, what you need to do, is to identify potential countries that might suit your peculiar needs ? A country with a political system similar to the 'Society of Friends' (the Quakers) NOT the breakfast cereal either, NHOJ ?

I understand the United States has probably the largest congregation of Quakers, but on second thoughts, that wouldn't do either would it ? They, the United States tend to become somewhat belligerent and militaristic every so often, which would diametrically conflict with your harmonious perspective, together with your peaceful ideology, I would've thought ?

I really don't know my frustrated friend. Perhaps the only thing you might consider trying, is to modify your thinking somewhat. And instead of being irritated with issues and individuals, try becoming a little more pliant and pragmatic instead ?

Always ready to lend a hand there NHOJ.
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 28 April 2014 6:01:26 PM
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