Nhoj, - Like usual you do not comprehend what you read.

To quote you From page 16 me to you.
"When asked questions all you can do is come back with the following comment "100% brainwashed. You do Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt proud."

To quote you From page 18 me to you.
Your replies do not amount to much substance, like take your reply to my questions on page 15 To quote you "100% brainwashed. You do Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt proud."

If you can't see it is my questions something is wrong.

It boils my blood that a 60 something person that should be enjoying life after working and paying taxes their whole lives could be forced back to work, when a 20 something is sprawled on a couch somewhere working on yet another way to fleece some money out of us Tax payers.
Yes life expectancy has increased but will the quantity won't necessarily mean quality. My hubby and I worked out that he works 3 months of 38 hr weeks to pay off his taxes. And it all goes to the bum next door that is continually whingeing that centrelink is making him look for work or that he has nothing to do. I believe that people on disablilty pensions in alot of cases could be retrained, and people on the dole should have the amount reduced every 6 months. In that time they should be able to find work or start retraining to a different job.

Who ever turned over that rock that Nhoj lives under, please turn it back over.

It may be only a small rock, & you may not have notices, after all he is only a small minded bit of stuff, so all thinking people may have to turn back over a lot of pebbles.

Yes it might be a bit of a hassle, but remember, the world is a better place when the rubbish is buried, so worth the effort.

Bec,
Anyone who is now aged 60 will not have their retirement age lifted to 70 as it is my understanding that this will not kick in till at least 2023, 9 years from now. They will be retired by then.

. Anyone who commenced work post 1992 has been paid super. Super was always intended to be a replacement/supplement to the pension. Now if they have drawn on their super for hardship reasons, that's a choice they made, or in some cases was forced upon them, however that is why there will still be a pension of soughts.

Our birth survival rates have increased, our fertility rates have improved,we are living longer and we are commencing work latter in life. With these points in mind, how do you think we can go on without raising the pension age at some point.

As for the dole, I agree with much of what you said, however, there is too much waste in welfare and much of this waste could be illuminated if we stopped paying cash.

The truth is that many on the dole are there because they can't control or organize their own lives, same goes for their cash.

As for layabouts, national service would be a good place to start, nit just the armed forces, but groups getting out and doing odd jobs that council budgets just can't cater for.

As for long term unemployed, arrangements need to be made to take them to job interviews, with a no splash no cash approach because lazing about on the couch all day, or staying up till 2am watching TV is not actively seeking work.

It brings me back to a time when I was warned by the then CES because I refused to sign forms for scammers who had no intention of wanting to be a butcher.

The who system is a joke, always has been. Bring on work for the dole I say.

As for Nhoj, I will endeavor to debate with anyone, but, once I establish that the person is a prize #whit, I don't bother any. More.

rechtub, thanks for your reply.

My parents then will be some of the first to continue working until they are unable to. My father whose super fund is in the low 10,000's with heart and knee issues and my mother with poor eyesight and hardly a dollar to her name.

Super is great, but 9% of FA is FA. I myself have just been notified that because of lack of contributions and the cost of fees mine has closed. (Have been a stay at home mum funded by hubby for some years now)

The age we start work has increased mostly I think because learning on the job has become a thing of the past and people "learn" how to do a job from a book and have a useless piece of paper that says they know what they are doing. The other issue is there is no incentive whatsoever to start work early. My husband and I would be about $100 better off if we went onto parenting payment and a disability pension, something he could easily get for his crushed leg.

Everything else you have mentioned I agree wholeheartedly. And I will say that I am allowing my emotions to sway me in this discussion. If I was to look at it purely from a spreadsheet I am sure I would agree with what the Government is proposing. However, we must not allow this to happen as it is peoples lives that are going to be effected, not in a material way but in one potentially detrimental to their physical and mental health.

Bec_young mum of 2 - The problem with employee superannuation schemes is that the people administering them are taking far too big an administration fee or whatever they call it to manage the contributions.

There was an article a few days ago saying we were paying the near or the highest rates for that service.