The elephant in the room is the taxpayers' opinion of governments that fund multicultural lobbyists to promote policies that the taxpayers themselves, the electorate, have not been allowed to have a vote on.

There is no doubt too that many women are not having children because 'life has other plans'. Not having the children they want through social and economic constraints that inconvenience and ultimately dictate their choice is very sad. While some do not have children by choice and are happy about that forever, there is a large rump who want children but leave their run too late and do not have the number of children they want.

How long will it be before the penny drops and young Aussie couples realise that the high taxes they pay for welfare, urgent infrastructure development and the prohibitively high price of housing are necessary to support the mass migration that continually sets new records? Those young Aussie couples are being bent over both ways through taxes and sacrifice of not having their own children, and all to take thousands more migrants, ie some other country's adult children.

It is circular: Aussie women cannot have children through social and economic reasons, so more migrants from the teeming Third World are brought in to maintain growthist policies. However to support those migrants and growthist policies Aussie women must delay their own fertility indefinitely and not have the children they want. Back to start.

There is a debate we should be having but are not, because it is being drowned out by the clamour of the multicultural lobby and the array of spruikers, advocates and others who are getting a very good living from that policy. Meanwhile governments are happy to forget the needs of the 'silent' majority to pursue the few percent of 'swinging' votes promised by the ethnic lobbyists.

The only remaining choice for the exasperated electorate that is not being listened to is to regularly take out the rubbish in Canberra. That can happen to the LNP too.

good post beechie

anyhow banjo2 said..<<..If you look back over my posts of the last week or two, you will see direct question to at least 3 posters about what cultural practices should we accepT>>

THERE ARE CULTURAL LAWS.Cultural norms..cultural hangovers
there are legal/lawful moral and immoral laws
there are state laws federal laws council by laws and traty obligation higher than law

to ask as to cultural practices//we acceppt is subject to the application of which specific law..[i accept many..but follow f

see laws Allow privilege..[give license...]
THEY..Issue lawful warrant to act]/UNDER THE ACT/THOSE UNDER THE ACT..GAIN PRIVILEGES..A..BUT AS THUS SUBJECT TO THE LAWS UNDER THE ACT.

FACT IS all act..is carried out under the act
and the simple fact..you either obey the moral code..or get cast out

we dont expel people enough
if YOU DO THE CRIME..YOUR GONE.live by the same rule of law..or go.

thing is if your culture
says EAT HUMANS..YOUR THE WRONG CULTURE..we will take you back where that sort of thing belongs[we ARE NOT JUDGING MIND..ITS JUST WE THINK THAT IS BARBARIC..you cant do that sort of thing..here.

but by whos right
by what act?..WHO'S OPINIONS BIAS HATES FEARS..is right
http://rss.infowars.com/20140409_Wed_Alex.mp3

<< Its [multiculturalism] *looks* fine as long as OZ continues to find enough minerals to sell off to pay its way, but should real hard times hit --bye bye lucky country and hello Lebanon of the West. >>

Yes SPQR.

If we don’t very smartly get it through out thick heads that we need to skittle immigration and head towards a stable population, Oz won’t be able to pay its way. The most insane thing that our government is doing facilitating an ever-rapidly-growing demand for resources, goods, services and infrastructure, when there are bleedingly obvious signs of massive problems looming with our ability to keep on rapidly increasing the provision of R, G, S & I!

All manner of strife will erupt then. All manner of inequalities will increase.

This is when multiculturalism, especially the various enclave communities, will really start to show its ugly side, with the ‘us and them’ mentality rising up to prominence. Groups of people will think, rightly or wrongly, that they are being disadvantaged. General discontent and mistrust will rise, as it always does when life becomes more difficult.

Dear Banjo,

<<There are many, many cultural practices that we currently do not allow. I wonder if you would care to post some that you would not object to, that are currently unacceptable. What about incest and paedophilia, or the consumption of dog meat or dolphin meat, for example. Now I have asked you as well.>>

What one accepts or doesn't is a personal question.
We have every right to accept none of the above.
We have every right to feel disgusted at such practices.
We have every right to boycott those who practice them.
We have every right to deny them all privileges, welfare for example.

But unless there is a victim who, explicitly or even implicitly, authorises us to help them, we have no right to intervene violently.

So applying this criteria to each practice in turn, I must ask: "is there a victim who wants me/us to help them?"

FGM, forced marriages and paedophilia: yes, there is likely to be such a victim, so we may reasonably assume that we can intervene unless the victim(s) tell us otherwise.

Incest: intergenerational incest would usually come under paedophilia, otherwise (such as brother/sister) it is quite unlikely to have a victim.

Underage marriage: it often is forced, but if it is not, then there is no victim.

Polygamy: I see no victims there (unless you count those single men who complain that polygamy makes it harder for them to find a bride).

Consumption of dog or dolphin meat: as a vegetarian I see the consumption of dog/dolphin meat equally disgusting as the consumption of cow/pig/chicken meat. Yet my private disgust gives me no right to harass those who eat meat and I do condemn the violent response by PETA and the like. Whoever wants to boycott those who consume dog/dolphin meat is welcome to avoid all personal/social/professional/business contacts with them, but nothing beyond that.

Any other practices?

"Experts have pointed out that over the next few decades Australians will need to be more receptive to ethnic
change and more engaged with multicultural policies and approaches". Well have they really.

So what we need to do is find those "experts" & silence them quick time.

Of course they may not actually exist. Unnamed experts are often a figment of the imagination of some fool bleeding heart, trying to give some credibility to their position.

Then again, it is the type of stupidity we have come to expect from academics in their ivory towers. Many of them feel more kinship with academics from third world hell holes, & are in favor of us taking in them, & their uneducated brethren.

Yuyutsu can see no victims in Polygamy, but of course he is rather one eyed. Perhaps he does not consider our whole society is a victim, when the excessive progeny of Polygamy then has to be supported by the regular population.

This was much of the argument of the original post by Banjo, of the inequity of the genuine Ozzies having to support an increasing burden in the ethnic population, a population that offers absolutely nothing to those it is being forced upon.

Perhaps these "experts" would do well to look at a little history. Real Ozzies are very slow to anger. They will put up with much. However just push a bit too hard, & you will be hit by a tsunami, you didn't see building. It would be wise for the bleeding hearts to quit now, before they get to that point

onthebeach Quote "taxpayers' opinion of governments that fund multicultural lobbyists to promote policies that the taxpayers themselves, the electorate, have not been allowed to have a vote on."

Someone can correct me if they think I am wrong but I believe most voters do not know what the Government spends most of the money on.

For example on another thread chrisgaff1000 posted a link to what exactly how much was being given to multicultural organizations, a lot of people had no idea about the extent of money being spent.

Some money is being hidden other things just do not get reported unless people read the whole budget papers which I would doubt if even 1% of the population would do.

Look at the link and tell me if you were aware of these and if you think even a small percentage of the population know about what organizations we are giving money to?

http://www.immi.gov.au/living-in-australia/delivering-assistance/settlement-grants/funded-orgs-previous.htm