sorry to hear about Belly’s departure.
Producer,
I'm not sure how to interpret that.

otb,

There's no talking to you at any level.
Your mind is closed.
You twist things to suit
your agenda, slur people, and then attack them
for your made up slurs. I've dealt with people
of your calibre all of my life. I'll match my posting
record with yours any day. Belly left this forum
because of you.And that is a great loss to this forum.
Much as Belly asked you to lay off - you did not
have the grace to do even that. Well, guess what -
I'm not playing any kind of victim here - as you so
arrogantly infer. Don't flatter yourself.
For me to be offended by anything
you say - I would have to regard you as an equal,
and value your opinion. You have delusions of adequacy.
But that's all they are - delusions. The only hope for
this country lies in the fact that people like you
are getting older - and the future does not belong to you.
Yay!

cont'd ...

otb,

There I've now made your day and given you enough
ammunition to attack me with. I've given you the
response you tried so hard to provoke.
I hope that this will satisfy your quest for blood
at least for a few ongoing posts.

OTB <"As is usual for me I will not be defending myself while you play the victim and sledge with personal attacks. You do it to others anyhow."

Are you serious?
You think Foxy plays the victim and sledges with personal attacks?
Aren't you simply describing yourself?
I would suggest we could find so much sledging from you on this forum that we could fill a novel dedicated to examples of sledging...

Banjo <"Then you have the hide to call for even greater diversity in ethnic arrivals, knowing full well our laws will not accept them to practice their culture to full extent. Then if you achieve that, I suggest you will ignore and turn a blind eye to any alien practices they may bring with them."

Really?
Show me exactly where any of the people you mention
have written they want greater diversity in ethnic arrivals?
How would you see any of us ever accepting FGM or child marriages?
Have any of us ever indicated that?

You are fabricating rubbish on a grand scale Banjo.

Why not just come right out and say you don't want ANY non-white, non-Christian people coming to Australia and be done with it.
It would be the only honest statement you could come up with.

Dear Banjo,

Kindly don't you start doing an otb - and trying to
tell us what we think and feel. Because you, old
chap are clueless apparently. And that is such a
shame. I really expected more from you. You only see
problems as far as immigrants are concerned which is
unfortunate. Immigrants have been a part and parcel
of the making of this country. Yet you refuse to
recognise the contributions that they have made and
keep referring only to their food and folk costumes.
Immigrants have worked hard, paid taxes, contributed
economically, studied and earned professions, more
immigrants have sent their children to higher education
than the national average and have integrated very well
into our society. Yet you keep pointing out selective
problems and ignore other problems that our society
has also had. Problems of crime, alcohol-fuelled violence,
domestic violence, drug trafficking, drug abuse, gambling,
prostitution, pre-occupation with incest, child abuse,
illegitimacy, abortion, divorce, material possessions,
and individual self-fullfillment at the expense of
obligations to kin and community. So before you criticise
other cultures - you'd better clean up your own backyard
first before you preach to others.

If we look for problems - we'll undoubtedly always find
them. But how about looking at what unites us - instead
of what divides us? Nobody is perfect - and by that I'm
not saying that problems should be condoned or ignored.
On the contrary, we do have a framework of laws that we're
all obliged to live by in this country. But by isolating
a particular group of people because they may or may not
break one of our laws - is nonsense. If that had been
the case - Australia would not have been settled in the
first place. It was a penal colony after all. And with
that came a whole host of problems that over the years -
have been sorted out - one way or another.

Calling me and others a fraud - is not an intelligent way
to argue - and simply makes you look silly.

Individual – If my memory serves me right Belly and you had respect for each other’s point of view and carried on a civilised debate.

Please correct me if I’m wrong?

Foxy and Suseonline – Hear Hear