Knew I should not have trusted WikiAnswers for spelling, but you know, I believe it is only peanuts who are more interested in spelling than what is being said, so I don't really give a stuff.

Luci thank god I'm no where near a Gillard skirt, I hate throwing up.

On this occassion your spelling is better than your idea.

<< Sometime soon some smart little chap will find a way to power your transport with a tiny chip of nuclear material, installed for life on the production line. >>

Hazza, I think you are WAY too optimistic. You can’t assert that we will make amazing technological advances that will save the day. All you can say is that we will probably make some tech advances that will improve things to some extent and that we might possibly make a really big one or two that will have a big positive impact, but that the chances of that really are pretty small.

You demonstrate just the same sort of thinking re: technofixes as you do re: your assertion that AGW is bunkum. You just completely cannot assert either with any credibility!

So I say just the same sort of thing as with ‘technofixology’ as I do with AGW: we need to err on the side of caution!

We need to plan for the future in such a way so as to NOT depend on significant technological advances.

DEAR LUDWIG..why the gloom and doom//lets say your right/the sky is falling AND TIDES GOING TO TAKE AWAY ALL THE SEA SIDES

HOW DO US PAYING BIG BUSINESS Polluters our carbon tax..TO KEEP Polluting..[you may have noted comalco or some other aluminum smelter received 53 MILLION in carbon credit..for compensation

RECALL ONLY THE WORST 500 WILL PAY
[OR DID THE 500 WOrsT GET A PAY DAY
i recall brown coal burners got a big chunk

so how did all that extra pollution
our carbon credits paid for..help ..the presumed problems

did comalco use solar POWER TO POWER THEIR SMELTERS
or use the half off peak price the states gave them tp attract them into that state..in the first place

in short lUDDY..OL BUDDY..EVEN IF CARBON IS THE ONLY PROBLEM
Doubling our power prices only hurt us all more[BAR THE FEW WHO GOT FRee credits to trade with

if you owe a carbon CREDIT..DEMAND payment..in as real carbon credit
ie a tree that turns it into plant food and FRESH AIR/BUT DO WE sabe grown trees[or plant 1000 sticks in plastic BAGS THEN NOT WATRER THEM TILL Their dead

all green schemes are built on greed and guilt and who got the free lunch/if a householder GETS 50 CENTS A KILOWATT..YOU CAN BET YA BOOTS SOME MATE Is getting that too/on top of free solar cells

well solar cells arnt working out[all that co2 their production caused needlessly..soon we need rebuild them alL OVER AGAIN

HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE INSANITY
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Luddy I've been hearing all this gloom & doom about peak oil since the 70s.

Now as a bloke who wanted to breed horses, but not race horses, I dreamt of it being true. Alas it never was.

As a bloke who loved sailing, I also dreamt of building a small sailing ship, capable of entering the shallow NSW coastal ports, & the Queensland ports, but large enough to earn a living caring cargo, rather than the tourists we carried in the Whitsundays. Never happened.

Well sorry mate. like the boy who cried wolf, I got sick of these people getting my hopes up. I'm turning off until it happens.
As far as I'm concerned I see no difference in us denying ourselves the use of petroleum, to denying the 2100 generation the use of it, if that happens.

Don't forget all that coal we have to produce liquid fuel from, if the amazing technologies don't eventuate.

Whatever happens solar & wind will never be more than Mickey Mouse power for the cottage, it certainly won't ever power a civilisation.

I lived for many years using about 7 LBS of gas for my stove a month, & little more than a gallon of outboard fuel, so I am probably more capable of handling it than most. If set up I suppose I could be again, however I couldn't believe how much my life was dislocated when we had no power, no gas, & only some petrol & firewood in the last flood.

Flooded in for 5.5 days was bloody awful. I now have an 8KVA diesel gen set, plenty of diesel, a spare 80Lb bottle of gas, 12 volt lighting through my granny flat & a 12 volt pressure pump. I won't be caught again. Note no windmills or solar panels, tried them & found them a pain.

I doubt many city folk would last more than a couple of days without help, if it happened to them.

Haz, what you call doom and gloom is what I call realism.

Just think about this….

Fossil fuel is finite, yes? There is still a damn lot of it out there, but….

The rate of consumption is astronomical, and still rapidly increasing.

So really, if you look at the increasing demand and the ever-more-difficult-to-extract-and-thus-more-expensive supply, then you gotta admit that things is looking downright precarious in the not-too-distant future.

Add to this what you readily acknowledge - that no renewable energy sources come anywhere near matching fossil fuels in either cost or scale of supply…

…and deep poo approacheth!

Your optimistic outlook is totally dependent on us coming up with super-duper new technofixes.

But surely you gotta admit that the prospects of this is looking dismal.

We’ve been trying like crazy to do this for yonks…. with every possible alternate form of energy!

And where is we at with it? We is where you readily acknowledge – with NO other energy source coming anywhere near the low cost or scale of supply that fossil fuels is providing.

Please Haz, think long and hard about your optimism, and realise that it IS totally unrealistic!