Dear o sung wu,

Much of UOG's last post was a cut and paste from the link he provided.

Both David Hodges and OUG should take note of the following;

“There is, of course, something deeply troubling about cognitive dissonance, since it suggests that we double-down on our beliefs in light of conflicting evidence. While neuroscientists have begun to decipher the anatomy of this mental flaw – you can blame your anterior cingulate cortex – I sometimes worry that the internet is making things worse. Although we’re all vulnerable to cognitive dissonance (and the paranoid style has always been a loud presence in American politics) we seem to squander ever more oxygen on worthless conversations about Obama’s birth certificate and the North American Union. After all, thanks to Google we can find “evidence” in support of practically any belief. If you can imagine the conspiracy theory, there is a website out there ardently promoting it, and a clan of fellow believers who share your peculiar obsession with fluoridated drinking water and the New World Order. The end result is that we never have to recant. We can always find another link to “prove” that the government is trying to “zombify” us, or that aliens are going to destroy the earth at midnight.”
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/08/the-psychology-of-conspiracy-theories/

In truth who is normal? It sure as hell ain't me, but if excessive unfounded fears are impacting heavily on a person's life then a gesture like yours toward OUG is timely.

However one has to be careful compounding those fears. The world isn't really stuffed at all. The number of people who have been pulled out of dire poverty and starvation over the last 25 years is absolutely astounding and we have managed to curb wholesale slaughter for the last 50 years which may well be a record for the human race. These are damn blessed times and we should be celebrating them even if sometimes we feel the opposite.

As a little aside I came across this little clip in my travels and thought you might find it interesting;
http://youtu.be/miCDPzJHvjk

the first post i -posted/JUST TO get you to recall we are still thinking oF YOU..THE SECOND FROM MEMORY WAS OVER CONCERN YOU MAYBE HAD CAST OFF THIS MORTAL COIL/THE 3 RD POST WAS PURELY TO spread the link..

i agree with sTEELY AND WHAT YOU SAID/YEP [UP TILL NOW]..WE CAN CLAIM A HIGH POINT/that will be waved in our faces endlessly as many of us and our kids get HURTLED Into uRSUROUs poverty..THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE 8 QUADRILLE OF DEBT OUT THERE..BUILT ON HALF A TRILLION OF REAL VALUES

SOON YOUR bank will 'bail-in'..your savings[ie convert your cassh on deposit..iNTO BANK SHARES[SHARES IN OVER VALUED DEBT THAT Goes under cents in the dollar]weknow this because thats what they DO/SINCE THE TIME OF jesus/the fall of rome/building public stadiums /mock wars before dying by war

reBUIlD SOCIETY DESTROY IT LOOT..it
start over again

[of the manY ASSASSINATED US Presidents..all were killed by bankers/for trying to reform the banking system/MONEY AS YOU MUST RECALL WAS POUNDS..AND SHILLINGS AND PENCE/THESE POUnds were at tHE WRITING Of the federal constitution..PAYABLE AS one pound of gold/that became one 'pound'/of silver/that became a promise of one pound sterling SILVER then at decimalization a tenner became a buck[but you could still get your pound OF STERLING SILVER IN ROUND 50 CENT PIECES[THE REST OF THE REAL SILVER COINS] BECAME NICKLE COIN
via the crime [treason OF DEBASEMENT]/A HANGING OFFENCE.

continues

ANYHOW VIA INFLATION THE BANKERS HAVE DEBASED HRH COIN[IN TIMES OF war thats TREASON//POINT IS ITS TREASON AGAINST HRH/HER COMMON WEALTH AND ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD..AND BY SIMPLY HRh decreeing the face values on her coin be restored to traditional values [as if STILL REAlly hold and silver coin/then we could repay the debt bankers has bound govt with [for the 50th timE]..YET AGAIN

mate the same destructive solutIONS Wont work this time
war is over..police when you boil it down..must side with the people[AND ONE DAy i might actually get a judge to TELL HRH..AND GET HER TO DECREE HER DEBTS PAYABLE Only in coin

SEE THats a condition/she bound upon the states/when the british act formed our commonwealth/thaT WEALTH WAS LOOTED FROM OUR MONBEY SYSTEM[MONEY MOW ISnt a store oF VALUE BUT A WITNESS TO A DEBT

ITS CRIMINAL/YET JUDGES/COPS/POLIES SEE NUTHIN
I MUST make them see i got gods money/ie the wikiseed..INSDTEAD OF weight in silver gold i can deliver weight in hemp seed [hemp seed maKES ANY thing from cake to plastic to fuel/rOPe CLOTH [38,000 different PRODUCTS..JUST LIKE IN THE OLD DAYS WE USED TO MELT COIN AND VALUE ADD/MAKING JEWELRY/THEN HEMP SeED IS A NEW PRODUCT TO VALUE ADD WITH..[SEE REV 22;2]

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16112&page=0

through..the tumult..of their..warlike preparation
And the half-stilled..clamour of the drums
Came a voice crying,..‘Lo! a new-made nation,
To her place..in the sisterhood..
our/global common-wealth NATION..comes!’
http://clatterymachinery.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/the-top-20-greatest-banjo-paterson-poems-of-all-time/

And she..came–she was beautiful..a S.U.N...as morning,
With the bloom..of the WATTLE..in her mouth,
Like a young queen..lavishly adorning
Her charms..with the splendors..BOUND BY THE BLOOD and..GUts of the Youth..CRUSHED..INTO WARS DUSTS/mired IN..Betrayed trust.

And the fierce..old nations,/OF waring..looking DOWN/UPon her,
Said,..‘Nay,..surely she..were quickly overthrown,
Hath she strength..for the burden laid..upon her,
Hath..she power to..serve save..amd protect..and guard..EVEN/her own?

Then she spoke,..and her voice was clear..and ringing
In..the ears of the nations..old and gray,
Saying,..‘Hark,..and ye shall hear my children singing
Their war-song..in ever/oLDER-countries..OH/SO far away.

They are..NO strangers..to the tumult..of/the battle,Still/2come.
They are few..but their hearts..are very strong,
‘Twas..but yesterday..they..called unto the BATTLE..JUST/Like..cattle,
But they.now sing..Australia’s marching song.’..forgetting god wAS BEGGED..TO SAve/our QUEEN..NOT HER..global-COLONIZATION/scheme.


Song.of the Austr-alians..in-Action
For.the dis-honour of Australia,..FOR..our mother,

Side by side.with our kin-kind..from over sea,
We have fought..together..and.we have tested one another,
And enrolled..[not payrolled]..among the..COmmon wealth-brotherhood..are we.

There was never..lost..of danger..but..THAT..we sought it
In the fighting,..through the fire,..and..through the flood/blood.
There/was never prize..so costly..in/lives..but we bought it,
Though we paid..for its purchase with..lives our treasure..our blood.

Was there..ever..any road..too rough..for us to travel?
Was there any path.too far for us to tread?
You can track us by the blood drops ..on the gravel
On the roads..that we milestoned..with the destructed COMMON MAN MONEY..wealth..THE BOdies..0f our dead!

And for you,..oh our young-minded..yet old..and anxious mother,
O’er your great gains..keeping watch..service..not servitude and ward,

Neither..OF US fearing..nor despising any other,
yes our lADY..EACH-OTHER..LOVING TOGETHER
We will..hold your possessions..with the s*word.
AND DEFEND..THE LIVING/Sacred..with the..sacred gods..last/world.

wikiseed/wikigeld S.U.n.treaty

. . . . .

Then they passed..to the place...of world-long..sleeping,
The grey-clad figures..with their dead,
To the sound..of their women..softly weeping
And the Dead March..moaning at their head:

And the Nations,..as the grim procession..ended,
Whispered,..‘Child!..But ye have seen..the price we pay,
From War..may we ever be defended,
Kneel ye down,..new-made Sister–

NOW..
Let us Pray!’

forward TO LIZ


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o sung wu,

Australia is not too stuffed that you can't take some cooked chook, a crust of bread and a thermos of coffee to a park to enjoy the Autumn sun and maybe some conversation too.

Leave there before 3.00 pm on weekdays when the mothers with their Maccas-fed kids arrive. For there are attention-seeking hysterics among them who would believe that any man and particularly a senior gent who is in a public place without a 'wonderful' woman to control him should be regarded with the utmost suspicion.

Hmmm, maybe Oz is partly-stuffed after all.

However the great majority of people are positive, caring and optimistic. So by all means do that that black dog for a walk some days.

i would try..to make this..its OWN TOPIC
BUT*..

The main claims of stabilization theory,..which distinguish it from neo-Darwinian theory, can be summarized as follows:

1. The typical form treated as a species comes into being via certain well-known, well-documented genetic processes ("stabilization processes")..that produce new stable forms in an extremely rapid manner; http://www.macroevolution.net/stabilization-processes.html
2. These processes produce new forms that are, for genetic reasons, inherently stable from the time of their inception right up to the time of their extinction. A corollary of this claim is the theory's assertion that any given type of organism produced by such a process has a negligible tendency to change over time in response to environmental constraints.

Darwin's picture of evolution
http://www.macroevolution.net/images/darwins-picture-of-evolution-250.jpg
(From The Origin of Species)

These primary tenets of stabilization theory can be contrasted with the following salient claims of neo-Darwinian theory:

1. The typical new form treated as a distinct species comes into being gradually through the accumulation of certain characteristic traits within an evolving population over time;
2. The accumulation and spread of these traits is due to environmental influences favoring the survival and reproduction of individuals having such traits (natural selection).

Only a few words of difference, but the implications are huge. Consider how extensively Darwinian theory has influenced not only biology, but also society at large and you will see that the stakes here are incredibly high — what if the axioms of Darwin's theory actually are erroneous? — and subsequent discussion will provide excellent reasons for believing they actually are — Then the theory itself is wrong and the entire Weltanschauung based upon it is mistaken. For example, under stabilization theory we select and shape our environment. The neo-Darwinian outlook, of course, is just the opposite: Under that view, the environment selects and shapes us.

As we shall see, the relative merits of these two hypotheses can in fact be evaluated by considering which of the two is more consistent with available data. But first, let's look at some examples of stabilization processes.
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http://www.macroevolution.net/stabilization-processes-examples.html
Introduction to stabilization theory http://www.macroevolution.net/introduction.html