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Minister Morrison the Truth about Manus Island

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Foxy,

From the link that you gave,

"Only 20-30% of Muslims construct their identity on the basis of their religious practice, writes Saman Shad.".

That is from one Fifth to near one Third.

Their religious practice is based on the Qur'an and thus they form a sizeable Fifth Column.

How about answering the question?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 28 February 2014 5:29:46 PM
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is Mise,
Don't jump the queue please, I'm still waiting for Foxy to answer my last question to her.
Posted by individual, Friday, 28 February 2014 6:19:48 PM
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Dear Individual,

As I've stated to you many times in the past -
people in different walks of life may interpret
the same phenomenon - whether it is a PM's
policies, a religious doctrine - et cetera in
very different ways. And as I've stated to you
previously people tend to see the world from a
viewpoint of subjectivity - an interpretation
based on personal values, their background, training,
and prior experiences. Therefore what's logical to
you may not be to someone else and calling people
"morons" simply because according to your sense
of logic you perceive them to be illogical does not
necessarily make them so. It's simply your own
perception according to your own values. Your
perception may appear illogical to others.

Dear Is Mise,

In this country as far as I'm aware we respect people's
right to be different. This is one of the foundations
of Australian democracy and all people are free to
follow any religion they choose so long as its
practices do not break any Australian law. Therefore
your question as to how I would make a certain religious
group see reason - why would I want to make them see
reason, and who's reason?
And how arrogant would that be of me to question
their religious beliefs. Or anyone's religious beliefs
for that matter. Who am I to do that? The people to do that
sort of questioning would have to be our authorities - in
the case of any law breakage or infriction.

There's nothing more to be said.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 28 February 2014 7:29:44 PM
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Your perception may appear illogical to others.
Lexi,
thank you for the explanation. I have spoken with many who have & are making positive contributions to this country & its society & they more or less always agree with my views.
It's only those on the left who do not contribute to the building of our society who vehemently dispute my views. This may be a good thing in your eyes but let me assure that those who are genuine & care are not found on the left. You see doing the right thing for Australia is to protect its society from evil not promoting its exposure to it.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 1 March 2014 5:24:44 AM
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Dear Individual,

Just a reminder that we have values and principles
in this country that reflect strong influences on
Australian history and culture. These include
Judeo-Christian ethics, a British political heritage
and the spirit of European Enlightenment. Distince
Irish and non-conformist attitudes and sentiments
have also been important. However our values and
principles should not be seen as a quest for conformity
or a common set of beliefs.

On the contrary, respect for the free-thinking individual
and the right to be different are foundations of
Australian democracy.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 March 2014 7:44:29 AM
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I note that two Australian women have been charged with a racial attack;

"Two young women have been charged with serious assault after a partially blind indigenous man was bashed and racially vilified on a Gold Coast bus."

I also note none of the 'usual suspects' have jumped on here to attack this racist attack. Naturally if two young Muslim men had racially vilified and attacked a white partially blind Australian women their keyboards would be running hot with anger and indignation. Strange that, draw your own conclusion about such people.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 1 March 2014 7:57:52 AM
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